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"'Emergency' meeting in Cairo for the study of a new offspring appearance from bf"

Theresa42

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From a Jordanian paper...

Machine-translated from Arabic:

"Emergency" meeting in Cairo for the study of a new offspring appearance from the bird flu
Feb 26, 2007

Amman - Jordan today participates in an emergency meeting that called for it on the World Health Organization in Cairo to the region countries, for the study of the scientific new developments related to the appearance of a new smoothness to the bird flu in Egypt for the first time a changeable about an offspring (H5N1 Strain) that injures the human being, according to the manager of the initial health care doctor Adel Al Belbeisi.

And Al Belbeisi said to "The Tomorrow" that the meeting will include 22 countries from the region of the Middle East, confirming that "the only Al Tami Flou [Tamilfu] treatment that proved an efficiency in a recovery what my ratio is 80% of the injured if have been given to category whose injury is expected early".

And he participates in the meeting that is held throughout three days of secretaries and the secretaries assistants in my ministry the health and the agriculture, according to Al Belbeisi who pointed to "the non being affected of kingdom [Jordan] by this disease that moves from injured birds to a human within a specific environment".

And the first influenza case appeared birds in the kingdom between dead Abyssinians birds [turkeys] in Agloun governorate in March month from last year.

And Al Belbeisi said that the World Health Organization declared that two persons in Egypt died last month because of the new offspring that calls S294, while an Egyptian child regained the recovery after its receiving Tami Flou's treatment.

And he added that the new virus was dismissed from both victims without a knowledge if was the virus it may change the birds before the human being's injury of a mother that changes the human being after the treatment, attracting that the organization does not have any reasons for the change of recommendations around a treatment "Al Tami Flou" after the discovery of the new offspring in two patients only.

And he declared also in Egypt the eleventh death of condition by the bird flu disease and she is a woman from Suweef's structures governorate in south of Cairo, and it resulted the injury as the Egyptian Ministry of Health mentioned due to mixing house birds.

And the participants discuss in the the meeting of the extent of these viruses response for the available treatments now and "the genetic analyses of the viruses that were extracted from both patients who were dead last month and confirms the probability of a decrease of the efficiency in anti-viruses, the known ones efficiency of medicine Baltami Flou."

And all of the viruses causing the bird flu and the human influenza send, according to Al Belbeisi to the laboratories of reference belonging to the World Health Organization for a knowledge if there were any genetic changes in these viruses, to be ready to the appearance of new offsprings their spread may facilitate between the human being directly.

It is pointed that my ministry the health, the agriculture and the concerned authorities imaginary exercises penetrated into the crossroads governorate in the beginning of current month within the measures of the national plan for the confrontation of bird flu.

http://www.alghad.jo/?news=156527
 
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"...a new smoothness..." -- any ideas what this means?
 
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I think this post qualifies for "breaking" or at the very least normal "headlines" thread
 
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At first I interpreted "smoothness" as a possible decrease in virulence but as I read down and tried to understand the text translator I ended up with "Smoothness" increased transmissibility or meaning H2H. The smoothness of passing between.

Also scratched out from the article at first impression ....A call to get all the samples together, from all the players in the region and determine what the heck's going on with what strain.

The question is....What does Emergency mean?
 
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dictionarys defintion of emergency is:



1 : an unforeseen combination of circumstances or the resulting state that calls for immediate action
2 : an urgent need for assistance or relief <the governor declared a state of emergency after the flood>
 
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Using CornText translator..........Corntext in Bold / Italics.[/

"'Emergency' meeting in Cairo for the study of a new offspring

New offspring means "new strain"
"Emergency" meeting in Cairo for the study of a new offspring appearance from the bird flu

Everybody hurry up and get together in Cairo to discuss of new strains of H5N1

Feb 26, 2007

Amman - Jordan today participates in an emergency meeting that called for it on the World Health Organization in Cairo to the region countries, for the study of the scientific new developments related to the appearance of a new smoothness to the bird flu in Egypt for the first time a changeable about an offspring (H5N1 Strain) that injures the human being, according to the manager of the initial health care doctor Adel Al Belbeisi.
Jordan went to Ciaro for hastily called/unplanned get together hosted by the WHO for mid eastern countries to gather and present new expert findings that look like the BF is easier to transmit..... a new strain in Egypt

And Al Belbeisi said to "The Tomorrow" that the meeting will include 22 countries from the region of the Middle East, confirming that "the only Al Tami Flou [Tamilfu] treatment that proved an efficiency in a recovery what my ratio is 80% of the injured if have been given to category whose injury is expected early".

The meeting is tomorrow with represenatives from 22 surounding countries........... of 100% who recieved Tamiflu with sufficient lead time of 48 hours of showing symptoms....80% died.

And he participates in the meeting that is held throughout three days of secretaries and the secretaries assistants in my ministry the health and the agriculture, according to Al Belbeisi who pointed to "the non being affected of kingdom [Jordan] by this disease that moves from injured birds to a human within a specific environment".
Jordan officials who attend will meet with WHO presenters in the animal and food scientist and experts as they present their data on the new Egyptian findings........... Jordan states they are flu free,....... just going to emergency meeting to study/ update.

And the first influenza case appeared birds in the kingdom between dead Abyssinians birds [turkeys] in Agloun governorate in March month from last year.
Jordan did have BF in birds but that was last year.

And Al Belbeisi said that the World Health Organization declared that two persons in Egypt died last month because of the new offspring that calls S294, while an Egyptian child regained the recovery after its receiving Tami Flou's treatment.
The two who died in Egypt recently had the new tamiflu resistan strain with only one child recovering from Tamiflu treatment.

And he added that the new virus was dismissed from both victims without a knowledge if was the virus it may change the birds before the human being's injury of a mother that changes the human being after the treatment, attracting that the organization does not have any reasons for the change of recommendations around a treatment "Al Tami Flou" after the discovery of the new offspring in two patients only.
The new Tamiflu resistant strain. Don't know weather the resistance was developed from pretreatment or aquired from the patient afterward and developed resistance. Therfore stick to regular recommedened doses and current Tamiflu stratiges. It was only these two cases that were Tamiflu resistance

And he declared also in Egypt the eleventh death of condition by the bird flu disease and she is a woman from Suweef's structures governorate in south of Cairo, and it resulted the injury as the Egyptian Ministry of Health mentioned due to mixing house birds.
latest Lady died of Poultry contact in home.

And the participants discuss in the the meeting of the extent of these viruses response for the available treatments now and "the genetic analyses of the viruses that were extracted from both patients who were dead last month and confirms the probability of a decrease of the efficiency in anti-viruses, the known ones efficiency of medicine Baltami Flou."

at the meeting Tamiflu resistance and other treatments will be discussed.........The two cases that developed resistance to Tami and this strain is out there.......... Discuss alternative treatments than Tamiflu for the new strain

And all of the viruses causing the bird flu and the human influenza send, according to Al Belbeisi to the laboratories of reference belonging to the World Health Organization for a knowledge if there were any genetic changes in these viruses, to be ready to the appearance of new offsprings their spread may facilitate between the human being directly.

All of Jordans strains collected will be sent to the WHO at the meeting to look for changes in the sequences to get a heads up on emerging strains and anticipate shifts in theses vieuses that would make it more H2H

It is pointed that my ministry the health, the agriculture and the concerned authorities imaginary exercises penetrated into the crossroads governorate in the beginning of current month within the measures of the national plan for the confrontation of bird flu.

Jordan has practiced just recently for BF control and pandemic plans

http://www.alghad.jo/?news=156527
 
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but if its getting easier to transmit,doesnt that mean its getting closer to becoming H2H virus.?
 
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"...a new smoothness..." -- any ideas what this means?
I can't make much sense of it via the machine-translators -- Google translates the word as just "smooth" and WorldLingo translates it as "mildness".... Dunno. ??

If anybody speaks/reads Arabic, the word in question is: سلاسة

The phrase (for context) is: ...لدراسة المستجدات العلمية المتعلقة بظهور سلاسة جديدة لأنفلونزا الطيور في مصر للمرة الأولى متحورة عن سلالة (H5N1) التي تصيب البشر....
 
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The question is....What does Emergency mean?
Note that the word emergency in the headline was enclosed in quotation marks [ " " ] in the original article (I didn't add them). Don't know what the significance of the quotes is.... :confused:
 
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I very much like the CornText translator, Corn! ;) But, I do have a couple of different interpretations of the text...
Corn said:
Jordan went to Ciaro for hastily called/unplanned get together hosted by the WHO for mid eastern countries to gather and present new expert findings that look like the BF is easier to transmit..... a new strain in Egypt
I think the jury is still out on whether or not they're talking about a version of the virus that's more easily transmittable. The Egyptian authorities have reiterated several times in the last few weeks that the virus has not become more transmittable -- only that the Tamiflu resistant strain did pop up in two victims back in December, but that they haven't found it in any victims since. It remains to be seen what "smoothness" means. No idea on that one, unfortunately.
Corn said:
Theresa42 said:
And Al Belbeisi said to "The Tomorrow" that the meeting will include 22 countries from the region of the Middle East, confirming that "the only Al Tami Flou [Tamilfu] treatment that proved an efficiency in a recovery what my ratio is 80% of the injured if have been given to category whose injury is expected early".
The meeting is tomorrow with represenatives from 22 surounding countries........... of 100% who recieved Tamiflu with sufficient lead time of 48 hours of showing symptoms....80% died.
I'm pretty sure they're saying here that 80% of people who received Tamiflu in time (in Egypt) recovered -- not that they died.
Corn said:
The two who died in Egypt recently had the new tamiflu resistan strain with only one child recovering from Tamiflu treatment.
Just to note, the two who died in Egypt with the Tamiflu resistant strain died in December. The child who recovered was just discharged the other day and was not related to the two with the resistant strain.
 
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Yes, T,

All in all, the initial translation from Arabic is the weirdest translation I have read in a while. Bizarre and almost funny.

You would think with how knee deep we are in the Mid east that there would be a much clearer, cleaner translator available.

Bits and pieces should start to come out from the emergency meeting soon and clarify a lot.
 
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Hello all,
There are quite a few arabic translation services who advertise on the internet. Perhaps someone from Flutrackers could contact these companies and see if any would be willing to donate some time to the cause. We might find there is someone running one of these services that is also concerned about pan flu and be willing to help. If not, perhaps there is a member of flutrackers with the money willing to pay for translations. I saw some that were about 7 cents per word. There is probably minimums but perhaps they would work with us. Would not hurt to try!
 
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T42, I ll ask Flubee for this specific world
 
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from my son

Yep, it is obviously a misspelling of the word 'strain' (as in strain or form of a virus)

Any other Arabic Translations?
 
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we can do them, around finals exams.
 
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T42, I ll ask Flubee for this specific world
Thanks, Anne! :)
 
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from my son

Yep, it is obviously a misspelling of the word 'strain' (as in strain or form of a virus)

Any other Arabic Translations?
Ooooo -- thank you Susie! And a Big Thank You to your son, too! That makes more sense. :)

If we get stuck again, now I know who to call! ;)
 
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Yeah! I finally have something useful to contribute.

Alright, there is a man a few cubicles down from me who is fluent in Arabic. He is a native of Morocco. I had him read the article. He said the correct translation of the words the machine translated as "smooth" is: NEW STRAIN

He said the paragraph that references the 80% reads: Of flu patients, those treated with Tamiflu, 80% are cured.

Sorry if the commas are in the wrong place or unnecessary, I am comma happy.

He was very happy to help and will do so again. I am leaving work in an hour and won't be back for several weeks or more, but after that he will do some more translating for us.

:applause:
 
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Yay! Thanks, Daisy! And thanks to your Moroccan co-worker! :)
 
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