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Indonesia scientist says 1/5th of stray cats carry bird flu virus

Re: Indonesia scientist says 1/5th of stray cats carry bird flu virus

I'd like to emphasize the fact that the cats had antibodies and not active cases of the flu. Amy Chews comment in the Jan. 15 posting leads the reader to think the cats are all still infected. This may lead to the belief that killing all the cats would be a wise solution when in fact it would only lead to other problems. This also is telling in that one reason the virus is not found more often, especially in wet markets, is the cats get to the dead birds before people find them. Who looks twice at what a feral cat may be having for dinner?
 
Re: Indonesia scientist says 1/5th of stray cats carry bird flu virus

again: the cat and human viruses are different from the chicken viruses.
I don't understand why this is permanently being ignored by
authorities and scientists and posters.
 
Re: Indonesia scientist says 1/5th of stray cats carry bird flu virus

No avian virus found in dogs, cats in Yogyakarta

YOGYAKARTA (Antara): Head of Yogyakarta Agriculture and Husbandry office Machmud Asvan said Friday that his office has not found any avian influenza infection in dogs and cats examined by his office.

He said his office have examined a number of animals, mostly cats and dogs, which were suspected of being infected by the bird flue virus, but the result was negative.

A survey carried out by a university in Bali shows that a number of cats and dogs in Bali, West Nusa Tenggara, and East Nusa Tenggara provinces have been affected by avian influenza virus.

Machmud did not come into detail about the survey, including the number of dogs and cats examined by his office, which involved students of the animal health school in the University of Indonesia. (**)

http://www.thejakartapost.com/detailgeneral.asp?fileid=20070126134026&irec=4
 
Re: Indonesia scientist says 1/5th of stray cats carry bird flu virus

gsgs, are the cats sequences ( all segments ) the same as human sequences, or it's just in HA at the cleavage site ?
how many cat 's sequences do we have ?
 
Re: Indonesia scientist says 1/5th of stray cats carry bird flu virus

1 cat from Indonesia, all 8 segments. Very similar to human sequences
at same location but probably not directly infected by them.

This phenomenon with the non-matching sequences is only in
Indonesia. It's not only the cleavage site but quite more
characteristics which distinguishes the mammal-viruses
from the bird-viruses in Indonesia.
With some very few exceptions.
 
Re: Indonesia scientist says 1/5th of stray cats carry bird flu virus

...with the exception of M1 at least at ncbi
 
Re: Indonesia scientist says 1/5th of stray cats carry bird flu virus

To my knowledge these are the cats currently available at Gen Bank and LA
DQ864720 A/cat/Dagestan/87/06 H5N1 length:1779
AY834279 A/tiger/Thailand/SPB-1 H5N1 length:1779
DQ643982 A/cat/Germany/606/2006 H5N1 length:1779
AY866475 A/tiger/Thailand/CU-T7/2004 H5N1 length:1762
AY646175 A/leopard/Suphanburi/Thailand/Leo-1/04 H5N1 length:1712
AY972541 A/tiger/Thailand/CU-T6/04 H5N1 length:1726
AY972539 A/tiger/Thailand/CU-T4/04 H5N1 length:1718
AY972540 A/tiger/Thailand/CU-T5/04 H5N1 length:1648
AY842935 A/tiger/Thailand/CU-T3/2004 H5N1 length:1648
AY972542 A/tiger/Thailand/CU-T8/04 H5N1 length:1648
DQ236077 A/cat/Thailand/KU-02/04 H5N1 length:1712
AY646167 A/tiger/Suphanburi/Thailand/Ti-1/04 H5N1 length:1712
CY014208 A/feline/Indonesia/CDC1/2006 H5N1 length:1659
ISDN136817 A/Feline/Indonesia/CDC1/2006 H5N1 length:1659
DQ435200 A/domestic cat/Iraq/820/2006 H5N1 length:1647
AY535020 A/leopard/Thailand/TM3/2004 H5N1 length:287
AY535021 A/leopard/Thailand/TLV3/2004 H5N1 length:287
AY535022 A/tiger/Thailand/TLV1/2004 H5N1 length:287
AY590571 A/leopard/Thailand/CU-MD/2004 H5N1 length:317
 
Re: Indonesia scientist says 1/5th of stray cats carry bird flu virus

what about M1, ganzerpeel ?
so, we have the same indonesian cat for a long time.

gsgs, one cat can draw attention but do you think that only one cat is suffisient to affirm a theorie ?

we must wait the results of the professor Nidom.
 
Re: Indonesia scientist says 1/5th of stray cats carry bird flu virus

M1 nt is not there. But the isolate is from 2006. We had discussed the cat issue some time ago in he french forum.
 
Re: Indonesia scientist says 1/5th of stray cats carry bird flu virus

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]July 22, 2007
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City's cat numbers rapidly expanding, pose disease threat
[/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica]Prodita Sabarini, The Jakarta Post, Jakarta[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica]Early one morning, while his children were still tucked up in bed, a man drove to a traditional market far away from his house, with a sack filled with kittens on the passenger's seat of the car.

[/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica] With four cats already, the family had decided to get rid of their female cat's latest litter in the usual way. Her five kittens were left at the market to fend for themselves.

[/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica] "It's always like that. Every time our cat has delivered kittens, which can be up to three times a year with at least three kittens in each pregnancy, we have to throw them away. We are caring for too many cats already," owner Anna Maria Anis, 30, said recently.

[/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica] Anna's family is far from being the only one in the city dumping kittens in the streets, where thousands of strays already live.

[/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica] A stroll down just about any street in town reveals just how widespread the problem is. Cats live in markets, upscale residential complexes, poor slums, sidewalk cafes and cemeteries.

[/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica] Animal lovers have long been concerned by the plight of the city's street cats. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] Cat Fancy Indonesia chairman Yulian Susanty said that the city's cat population needed to be controlled.

[/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica] "If it goes up to an alarming rate, it will be unhealthy for the people," she said. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] Cats can carry the toxoplasmosis virus, which if transmitted to humans can cause difficulties in pregnancy and childbirth.

[/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica] It can cause miscarriages and damage the nervous system of the baby. Cats can also carry rabies.

[/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica] "They can get it from dogs. Stray cats are more vulnerable to being attacked by dogs, making them prone to rabies, and then infecting humans with it," Yulian said.

[/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica] It was also recently discovered that cats can contract the bird flu virus, although as Yulian noted there is as yet no evidence to suggest that they can spread it among themselves or give it to humans.

[/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica] The exact number of stray cats in the city is not known, although Yulian said that with the short reproduction cycle of cats it would be a lot.

[/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica] "I can't give you an exact number. But in some places that we surveyed, such as in Manggarai Market and Tanah Karet graveyard, when we first surveyed the places two years ago, there are more than 100 female cats in each place. Today the number of cats there could reach the thousands," she said.

[/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica] She said that a female cat can give birth up to four times a year, meaning that each month 100 cats would probably produce 200 kittens.

[/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica] "In a year, there could be up to more than 700 cats," she said.

[/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica] "And that's only two sites in this city. Multiply them by the many other places in the city where stray cats live, then we have plenty," she said.

[/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica] She said that the city had to know what it would face if the cat population was left uncontrolled.

[/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica] "It would pose a serious disease threat, things like toxoplasmosis and rabies," she said.

[/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica] Yulian said the city needed to work harder to control the cat population.

[/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica] "First there should be a detailed mapping of the cat population in the city, they should be vaccinated against rabies, and there should be shelters for stray animals," she said. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] She said the population could be controlled by sterilizing the male cats and that her organization had attempted to work with the city administration on the issue.

[/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica] "I guess the administration had enough things on their minds though, with the recent flooding and other things," she said.

[/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica] Jakarta Animal Husbandry Agency head Edi Sutiarto said that city was currently concentrating on preventing the spread of bird flu but that there were centers for stray animals.

[/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica] "In Ragunan, there is a care center for animals, especially dogs and cats. It's privately owned but works in coordination with the agency," he said.

[/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica] He added that agency had sterilized some stray cats in the city but it had not been an intensive program.

[/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica] "Our personnel are concentrating on other stuff," he said.[/FONT]


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