Thailand 7/27 - 7/29

[Theresa42]

Lampang province - 18 suspected human cases of bf in Lampang hospital

And poultry has died of unknown causes...

Machine-translated from Thai:

Ministry of Public Health - Lampang spread watch/guard be careful - guard against bird flu good visit assure sterile entire province
โดย ผู้จัดการออนไลน์ 26 กรกฎาคม 2549 15:06 น.

Doctor Bpradit investigate will doctor public health province Lampang disclose situation bird flu in area province Lampang at present to be at in level watch/guard be careful and protect well visit that since period 2 week preceding until present by public health province receive report task survey and watch/guard be careful people that there is risk for task infect with bird flu and enter is patient of hospital Lampang amount 18 persons because there is cough and temperature as well as there is history touch chicken besides house of patients also there is chicken die due to not known cause but from blood test and [?] be scared include task have a check-up all find that result come out is negative is to not have any virus test bird for result task examine chicken that die of bureau livestock province also not find virus bird flu that can summary can that province Lampang also not basically that spread of disease aforementioned anyway request people specially children/young people and elderly avoid contact poultry every kind because there is immunity in body low and might infect with can be easy therefore contact be careful specially for people ordinary if experience death of poultry can inform with system watch/guard be careful disease area province appointed specially can to village leader habitation and be well matched in order that will be able to inform to authority enter survey prove and guard against disease increasingly.

http://www.manager.co.th/Home/ViewNews.aspx?NewsID=9490000095515&Keyword=%e4%a2%e9%cb%c7%d1%b4%b9%a1

Lampang province (in the north):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lampang_Province

 

[Sharpe]

Re: THAILAND - [Lampang] 18 suspected human cases of bf in Lampang hospital

Re: THAILAND - [Lampang] 18 suspected human cases of bf in Lampang hospital

Lampang circled in blue on map. I also thought I'd post this short news article from southeastern Myanmar from just a few days ago. Considering the breakout of H5N1 in Thailand and how close Rangoon is to Thailand, it is now more interesting than I had thought at first. Eye infections? Several types of bird flu are well known to produce conjunctivitis. Respiratory illnesses? Severe Dengue? Those are big catchwords. What's so extreme about their weather anyway?

Dengue fever outbreak in Rangoon Division

Jul 18, 2006 (DVB) - Due to a severe outbreak of dengue fever this raining season, hospitals within Rangoon Division are filled with ill children and there were some fatalities.

The outbreak is said to be caused by a type of striped mosquitoes which bite their victims during the day and the situations are said to be worse at crowded and rundown wards inhabited by poor day labourers. The situations are particularly very bad at suburban areas in Thaketa, North Okkalapa and Dagon New Town Townships, according to local residents.

?Yes, there have been many cases recently,? a doctor on duty in North Okkalapa General Hospital told DVB when asked about the situation there. ?There were some patients who died from dengue fever?not that many though. Only 2-3 people who were hospitalised died in total.?

He said that most of the patients who died came to the hospital when it was too late for them and that patients are graded according to the levels of severity, for treatments.

Moreover, children have been suffering from respiratory illnesses and eye infections due to the extreme weather conditions and changes, according to doctors from Insein and Dagon New Town.

 

[Theresa42]

Update from the Nakhon Sawan DPC - July 26, 2006

Update from the Nakhon Sawan DPC - July 26, 2006

July 26: 40 suspected human bf cases "on investigation." Fifteen (15) new suspected cases reported on the 26th from Phichit province -- two (2) new suspected cases reported from Kamphaeng Phet (one of these was "excluded" today).

2 cases seem to have been excluded from Phichit from the 24th to the 25th -- and, of course, one case was confirmed.

The breakdown - "on investigation" as of July 26:
Nakhon Sawan = 0
Uthani Thani = 0
Kamphaeng Phet = 1
Phichit = 39

http://dpc8.ddc.moph.go.th/db8/disease/04_bird_day/up/group4_VGxifYR26072006.pdf

 

[tsalagiT]

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Re: THAILAND - [Lampang] 18 suspected human cases of bf in Lampang hospital


once again.....Lampang is located further up the rail line. North of Uttaradit. Next stop...Chiang Mai.

then I promise i won't be harpin anymore on the railroad/h-h transmission theory I have. As Chiang Mai is the end of the rail line.


great map btw. thanks.

 

[Corn]

Re: THAILAND - [Lampang] 18 suspected human cases of bf in Lampang hospital

Re: THAILAND - [Lampang] 18 suspected human cases of bf in Lampang hospital

Harp away. The theory seems plausable. Keep up the good work.

 

[Sharpe]

Re: THAILAND - [Lampang] 18 suspected human cases of bf in Lampang hospital

Re: THAILAND - [Lampang] 18 suspected human cases of bf in Lampang hospital

once again.....Lampang is located further up the rail line. North of Uttaradit. Next stop...Chiang Mai.
then I promise i won't be harpin anymore on the railroad/h-h transmission theory I have. As Chiang Mai is the end of the rail line.
great map btw. thanks.

Chiang Rai is also upstream of Phichit and Lampang. As are Laos, Myanmar and ... China. This story has repeated itself before, (but on a far smaller scale). Read the following news article from October of last year.

Two more suspected bird flu victims
Posted on Saturday, 29 October 2005, 16: 12 GMT

Two more suspected avian influenza patients have been found in two northern Thai provinces of Chiang Rai and Phichit, doctors said on Saturday. An 18-year-old man has been admitted at a hospital in Chiang Saen District of Chiang Rai Province since October 26 after he came into contact with dead chickens for unknown reasons. Trained volunteers are now closely monitoring the deadly disease in villages in this province, as winter is approaching, when the danger increases. Bird flu prefers cold weather, according to experts.
The second suspected victim is a 49-year-old man and is now receiving a treatment at a hospital in Phichit Province. Doctors have sent his blood for test to the Department of Medical Sciences and the result is expected to be known on Monday. According to doctors, the victim raised a flock of more than 100 chickens and ducks at his home and felt sick after eating his dead birds. The doctors said two women who were also suspected of having contracted the disease and were admitted at the hospital earlier are still in critical condition now. Two boys who were admitted to hospital in Phichit on Wednesday have been released after doctors said the patients suffered from ordinary influenza and not bird flu. (Source: Thai News Agency)

 

[tsalagiT]

Re: THAILAND - [Lampang] 18 suspected human cases of bf in Lampang hospital

Re: THAILAND - [Lampang] 18 suspected human cases of bf in Lampang hospital

Chiang Rai is also upstream of Phichit and Lampang. As are Laos, Myanmar and ... China.

Actually your current posts on Vientiane, Laos? It's located at the thai border on the end of another rail line going northeast through thailand. lol

Now in seriousness. Are we talking of the same city? Chiang Mai and Chiang Rai? My Oxford atlas of the world has it as chiang Mai. Never seen so many confusing town names in all my life.

and btw. We left the river long before we got to Lampang.

 

[Sharpe]

Re: THAILAND - [Lampang] 18 suspected human cases of bf in Lampang hospital

Re: THAILAND - [Lampang] 18 suspected human cases of bf in Lampang hospital

Actually your current posts on Vientiane, Laos? It's located at the thai border on the end of another rail line going northeast through thailand. lol

Now in seriousness. Are we talking of the same city? Chiang Mai and Chiang Rai? My Oxford atlas of the world has it as chiang Mai. Never seen so many confusing town names in all my life.

and btw. We left the river long before we got to Lampang.

I'm using Google Earth. If you look at the satellite pictures you can clearly see the riverplain through the area. I agree, the names are strange. Remember too, that railroads are usually built at the lowest, flattest elevation, and thus are built along riverplains.

 

[prepdeb]

Thailand 7/27

Thailand 7/27

Eleven more suspected bird flu cases in Phichit
PHICHIT, July 27 (TNA) - Eleven more suspected bird flu cases were reported in Thailand's lower northern province of Phichit on Thursday.

Dr. Prajak Wattanakul, head of the Phichit provincial public health office, said that the 11 patients, mostly children aged between 4-14, are suspected of being infected with avian influenza virus and were admitted to five different hospitals in the province on Thursday.

Some of them had contacted with dead poultry and others live in areas where a large number of fowls died of unknown causes.

All the 11 patients were quarantined and samples of their blood and phlegm were sent for laboratory tests in the medical science centre in Nakhon Sawan, expected to be able to release the test results Friday, the doctor said. (TNA)-E009

http://etna.mcot.net/query.php?nid=23654

 

[Toaster2]

11 more suspected human BF cases in Phichit

11 more suspected human BF cases in Phichit

http://etna.mcot.net/query.php?nid=23654

Eleven more suspected bird flu cases in Phichit
PHICHIT, July 27 (TNA) - Eleven more suspected bird flu cases were reported in Thailand's lower northern province of Phichit on Thursday.

Dr. Prajak Wattanakul, head of the Phichit provincial public health office, said that the 11 patients, mostly children aged between 4-14, are suspected of being infected with avian influenza virus and were admitted to five different hospitals in the province on Thursday.

Some of them had contacted with dead poultry and others live in areas where a large number of fowls died of unknown causes.

All the 11 patients were quarantined and samples of their blood and phlegm were sent for laboratory tests in the medical science centre in Nakhon Sawan, expected to be able to release the test results Friday, the doctor said. (TNA)-E009

 

[hawkeye]

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Re: Eleven more suspected bird flu cases in Phichit

What's total number of known cases in Thailand?

 

[Sharpe]

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Re: Eleven more suspected bird flu cases in Phichit

What's total number of known cases in Thailand?

Known cases=1.

Suspected cases=changing numbers by the hour.

Reported suspected cases (roughly), a lot of overlap likely, with many possibly excluded and 2/3 of the country not reporting anything yet = 129.

 

[Toaster2]

Re: Eleven more suspected bird flu cases in Phichit

Re: Eleven more suspected bird flu cases in Phichit

http://dpc8.ddc.moph.go.th/db8/disease/04_bird_day/up/group4_HapQVgJ27072006.pdf


Today's table at 15.00 lists 16 under investigation. 33 of yesterdays 40 have tested negative. I do not see where the 11 fit in, maybe these were reported after 15.00 ?

BTW there are now multiple Thailand threads - can they be merged ?

 

[Commonground]

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Re: Eleven more suspected bird flu cases in Phichit

O.K.....I just sprouted 3 new gray hairs on that one

"Reported suspected cases (roughly), a lot of overlap likely, with many possibly excluded and 2/3 of the country not reporting anything yet = 129."

 

[sharon sanders]

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Good idea Toaster2 - I am working on it.

 

[Sharpe]

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O.K.....I just sprouted 3 new gray hairs on that one Vaffie!!!

"Reported suspected cases (roughly), a lot of overlap likely, with many possibly excluded and 2/3 of the country not reporting anything yet = 129."

Yeah, it's just impossible to know, Commonground. Numerous local newspapers, publishing breaking news in Thai that are difficult to understand.

 

[Toaster2]

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Good idea Toaster2 - I am working on it.

Thanks !

 

[tsalagiT]

Re: THAILAND - [Lampang] 18 suspected human cases of bf in Lampang hospital

Re: THAILAND - [Lampang] 18 suspected human cases of bf in Lampang hospital

Aww shucks. I can't get google earth. i'm still on dial up. is there anyway you can get to your google pic, and "send a link" to the page. just wonder if maybe i can access it that way.

We were speaking of two different places. Your Chiang Rai is directly north of Lampang by 100 miles plus. and on my map it appears it very likely does follow a river. and a road.

Chiang Mai is at the end of the railroad line about 80 miles northwest of lampang (which incidently has to travel through the highest moutain range in thailand to get there from the east side of the range at lampang. dont' see a river going through there,but there is a road. regardless, the same river would not connect the two, as seperate rivers would fall from the moutain range)

I went over my maps again....and Lampang shows to be no where near the same river as Uttaradit and the other 7 red zone towns. It appears on the map the river at uttaradit takes a turn to the east and connects up with the lake at tha pla. But if you follow the rail line from Uttaradit, (and a road), about 20 miles past uttaradit, you then pick up a new river at den chai. but yet, this new river still does not go to lampang , lampang is located 25 miles away from it.

you mentioned in another thread your concerns that this may have gone, or is about to be, easily passable between people? We are expressing the same concerns...I just expressed it a few days earlier after seeing the connection of cities by rail/roads. and incidently, I'm not insisting it HAS to be the just rail road, as obviously roads connect the cities. IMO, though, most people traveling long distances in thailand would take the rails in preference to the roads.

anybody have a good link to better maps of thailand? the map i am using, though very detailed, is at 1:4 800 000 scale.

 

[tsalagiT]

Re: Thailand 7/27

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these are the cities connected via the same river:

Yom river connects: sukhothai, phitsanulok, phichit.
Nan river connects: phitsanulok, phichit, and uttaradit

neither of these rivers are in vicinity of lampang or any other point west of uttaradit.

chiang mai=mae ping river

lampang= wang river

lamphun= mae nam kuang river, ping river

chiang rai= mae kok river


until this latest report from lampang, affected cities, with the exception of uthai thani (which has no major river, but what is described as a stream "haug kha khaeng"), were all connected via the same road/rivers/rail.

all listed cities, INCLUDING lampang and points west of uttaradit, are connected by road and same rail line which runs 4-6 times daily. (line goes from bangkok to Chiang Mai).

Chiang Mai, as noted before, is last stop on the line, and I expect, soon to be listed in cities of bf cases.

 

[AlaskaDenise]

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Does this appear to be the regular "carry chickens via transportation" transmission or is there a chance it's more "sustained transmisson"?

It looks like a high volume in a short timeframe.

Of course that could be due to the nature of the media or someone who sold infected chickens to several towns in a short timeframe.

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