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  • More H5 and N1 detected in DE

    The USDA and DE Department of Natural Resources is once again reporting the detection of H5 and N1 in Delaware, this time in live birds in Kent County. Testing underway to determine the exact strain and pathogenicity.


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    Re: More H5 and N1 detected in DE

    Originally posted by Mamabird View Post
    The USDA and DE Department of Natural Resources is once again reporting the detection of H5 and N1 in Delaware, this time in live birds in Kent County. Testing underway to determine the exact strain and pathogenicity.

    http://wildlifedisease.nbii.gov/ai/LPAITable.pdf
    Their isolation failure rate remains high.

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      Re: More H5 and N1 detected in DE

      Thanks Mamabird.

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        Re: More H5 and N1 detected in DE

        The May 11th detection of H5 and N1 in live birds in Kent County once again led to "no detection" of virus after further testing. The USDA's track record in isolation successes remains intact.

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          And now one of the May 22 Kent ruddy's has also been added for "unable to isolate virus".

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            Re: More H5 and N1 detected in DE

            It's 5 for 5 ... "no virus isolated" in any of the May samples.

            "We are in this breathing space before it happens. We do not know how long that breathing space is going to be. But, if we are not all organizing ourselves to get ready and to take action to prepare for a pandemic, then we are squandering an opportunity for our human security"- Dr. David Nabarro

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              Re: More H5 and N1 detected in DE

              Originally posted by MHSC View Post
              It's 5 for 5 ... "no virus isolated" in any of the May samples.
              And no sequences, and no test results. As I remember, we have no NA segment of any US H5N1 virus ever detected in the US in the last 100 years.
              Mushroom affect in full bloom.

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                Re: More H5 and N1 detected in DE

                Here the latest. Can someone explain how H5 + N1 can be detected but not "virus isolated"

                "In the beginning of change, the patriot is a scarce man (or woman https://flutrackers.com/forum/core/i...ilies/wink.png), and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for it then costs nothing to be a patriot."- Mark TwainReason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it. -Thomas Paine

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                  Re: More H5 and N1 detected in DE

                  I too would like to know this. Dr. Niman?...anyone?
                  Originally posted by Niko View Post
                  Here the latest. Can someone explain how H5 + N1 can be detected but not "virus isolated"

                  http://wildlifedisease.nbii.gov/ai/LPAITable.pdf

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                    Re: More H5 and N1 detected in DE

                    Originally posted by Niko View Post
                    Here the latest. Can someone explain how H5 + N1 can be detected but not "virus isolated"

                    http://wildlifedisease.nbii.gov/ai/LPAITable.pdf
                    False negatives are the rule in North America, Europe, and Africa.

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                      Re: More H5 and N1 detected in DE

                      Originally posted by hawkeye View Post
                      I too would like to know this. Dr. Niman?...anyone?
                      The local labs that perform initial testing for avian influenza in live or dead birds take samples from feces or from throat swabs and then use a rapid test PCR (polymerase chain reaction) to look for H5 or H7 or N1 viruses. Within three to six hours they can detect these viruses, but cannot tell for certain whether they are the highly pathogenic variety. The PCR tests are fairly sensitive and can pick up both low volumes of virus, as well as inactive viruses.

                      Isolation of the virus (step two confirmation) is performed only at the USDA's National Veterinary Services Lab in Ames, Iowa. It is Biosecure Level 3. It injects the viral samples into embryonted chicken eggs and within seven to ten days can "grow" the virus if it was in large enough quantities and was active. Analysis from the virus cultures (if they were successful in the isolation process) can specifically determine the virus strain (eg H5N1), but only subsequent viral sequencing can spot the poly basic amino acids at the HA clevage site which would represent the high path variety virus.

                      Having said that, to Dr. Niman's point, one really has to want to find these viruses. It takes diligence because the process is not all that simple and subject to a lot of problems along the way. I would be concerned that an agency whose primary job is to protect the beef and poultry industry might lack a certain level of independence necessary to seek out and find a virus that could cause significant economic disruption to the very food industry that it supports. To my point, please note the following excerpt from the USDA's strategic plans:

                      "USDA has created a strategic plan to implement its vision. The framework of this plan depends on these key activities: expanding markets for agricultural products and support international economic development, further developing alternative markets for agricultural products and activities, providing financing needed to help expand job opportunities and improve housing, utilities and infrastructure in rural America..."

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                        Re: More H5 and N1 detected in DE

                        Thanks for that explanation, Mamabird. It makes perfect sense.

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                          Re: More H5 and N1 detected in DE

                          Excellent Summary. Thank you Mamabird.
                          Dr. Niman, I read you crystal clear.

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