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  • Discussion: A group of doctors hold a summit in Washington D.C. called White Coat Summit to apparently promote hydroxychloroquine for COVID-19

    As I routinely post US CDC information and sponsored research, I feel free to post the "alternative" information below. I have no idea if the doctors and professionals in the following media are correct, or not.

    We are a discussion forum and do not advocate for any of the 1000s of the studies posted on this site.

    We are offering this topic for discussion. We are not a political site.

    There is apparently a group of doctors who believe that there is a hydroxychloroquine drug combination that is effective against COVID-19.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfXd5wA7R1E

    https://thegoldopinion.com/bio


    adding this link to news conference outside Supreme Court:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIsGNK95bG4
    Last edited by sharon sanders; July 27, 2020, 11:35 PM. Reason: added news conference link

  • #2
    Originally posted by sharon sanders View Post
    As I routinely post US CDC information and sponsored research, I feel free to post the "alternative" information below. I have no idea if the doctors and professionals in the following media are correct, or not.

    We are a discussion forum and do not advocate for any of the 1000s of the studies posted on this site.

    We are offering this topic for discussion. We are not a political site.

    There is apparently a group of doctors who believe that there is a hydroxychloroquine drug combination that is effective against COVID-19.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfXd5wA7R1E

    https://thegoldopinion.com/bio


    adding this link to news conference outside Supreme Court:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIsGNK95bG4
    The you tube link directly above was removed for violating you tube community standards. I did not see any violence, sex, profanity. It was a press conference. So....?

    Here is the website of these doctors and their summit information:

    https://www.americasfrontlinedoctors.com/

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    • Mary Wilson
      Mary Wilson commented
      Editing a comment
      I found partial transcripts here:
      America’s Frontline Doctors SCOTUS Press Conference Transcript
      Jul 27, 2020
      A group of American doctors calling themselves “America’s Frontline Doctors” held a press conference on COVID-19, hydroxychloroquine, and more outside the Supreme Court of the United States. Read the transcript of their press conference here.
      Warning: This press conference has been flagged & taken down by multiple social media platforms for containing “misleading” or “false” information. Rev does not condone the use of any COVID-19 treatments outlined in this press conference.
      https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts...nce-transcript

  • #3
    While Breitbart is not a source that I use or a media that I visit, they have the press conference video which was censored by facebook, twitter, and you tube today:

    https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2020/...ss-conference/


    As usual - use at least 2 sources for information and use your common sense.

    FluTrackers is Independent Media.

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    • #4
      lol...twitter is displaying this to steer the messaging.....


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      • #5
        The President has retweeted about a dozen tweets in the past 24 hrs from the twitter hashtag hydroxychloroquine advocating its use as a therapy. This seems an ineffective way for the President to try to shape actual policy, but seems to be an effective way to sow doubt and confusion among those who are prone to conspiracy theories. I call political BS.
        Twitter: @RonanKelly13
        The views expressed are mine alone and do not represent the views of my employer or any other person or organization.

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        • #6
          Originally posted by Ronan Kelly View Post
          The President has retweeted about a dozen tweets in the past 24 hrs from the twitter hashtag hydroxychloroquine advocating its use as a therapy. This seems an ineffective way for the President to try to shape actual policy, but seems to be an effective way to sow doubt and confusion among those who are prone to conspiracy theories. I call political BS.
          I really don't care what the President tweets about. I especially don't care what his medical opinion is. I never look at his account.

          If we can carry vaccine and other drugs creation attempts for the last 14 years (and many fail) we can have a discussion about hydroxychloroquine. This is a common drug in use for over 30 years and I believe it is on the WHO list of essential drugs. I did not see any political controversy about the use of dexamethasone for COVID-19. It makes sense to investigate drugs already in widespread use.

          In a perfect world - a common and inexpensive drug that is readily available would be effective against COVID-19 - benefiting billions of people.

          Political viewpoints/politicians are not relevant in considering various treatments/drugs/therapies for any disease.

          I had a serious medical issue a couple of years ago and I did not ask any politician what their opinion was. I researched the situation extensively. I interviewed practicing doctors who were experts in their disciplines. I made a decision. That's it.

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          • Gert van der Hoek
            Gert van der Hoek commented
            Editing a comment
            "I had a serious medical issue a couple of years ago and I did not ask any politician what their opinion was. I researched the situation extensively. I interviewed practicing doctors who were experts in their disciplines. I made a decision. That's it".

            Of course, this is what people do.

        • #7
          Originally posted by sharon sanders View Post

          I really don't care what the President tweets about. I especially don't care what his medical opinion is. I never look at his account.
          Not just the president, but also presidential political allies in the past 24 hours. When you see a concerted political attempt to push a therapy that the medical community has tested and found ineffective, you have to ask why. In my opinion, the doctor in question is a frequent right wing contributor, has stood against mask mandates, has pushed to end shutdown measures, and is now pushing hydroxychloroquine. If politics is behind the push, then the tweets of certain politicians and their allies become relevant. I'm certainly not trying to quell your discussion of this drug as a therapy, just as I'm sure that you are not trying to dismiss my opinion that this is political disinformation. I believe that this is an attempt to shift blame for our coronavirus failure and 150,000 deaths from the president to the medical community due to November's election.
          Twitter: @RonanKelly13
          The views expressed are mine alone and do not represent the views of my employer or any other person or organization.

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          • Gert van der Hoek
            Gert van der Hoek commented
            Editing a comment
            "I believe that this is an attempt to shift blame for our coronavirus failure and 150,000 deaths from the president to the medical community due to November's election".

            Agreed.

        • #8
          The mayority of the studies say it is ineffective in vivo ( both in serious as in mild cases, both therapeutic as prophylaxis) and in vitro (a recent study)

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          • #9
            I believe the video in question is the news conference video above.



            Donald Trump Jr.'s Twitter account suspended for sharing a video with false information



            BY GRACE SEGERS

            JULY 28, 2020 / 11:07 AM / CBS NEWS


            https://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-...e-information/

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            • #10
              James Todaro, MD
              @JamesTodaroMD

              8h
              Our video was taken down by Facebook & YouTube last night.

              Surprise surprise.

              You know what YouTube video is still up from 2 months ago though?

              The video with Surgisphere founder Sapan Desai on the results of the fake Lancet study that the WHO mistakenly endorsed immediately.
              --------------------------------------------------

              James Todaro, MD
              @JamesTodaroMD

              51m
              Wow. It appears Squarespace took down our website today http://americasfrontlinedoctors.com.

              We are reaching new levels of censorship.

              ---------------------------------------------------
              "Safety and security don't just happen, they are the result of collective consensus and public investment. We owe our children, the most vulnerable citizens in our society, a life free of violence and fear."
              -Nelson Mandela

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              • Emily
                Emily commented
                Editing a comment
                They are obviously biased. That might be legal - I don't know enough about free speech law vs private web sites to judge that. But if Zuckerberg did lie to Congress, that will hopefully go badly for him. Innocent until proven guilty, of course. https://wjactv.com/news/nation-world...ts-to-congress

            • #11
              A little about the origins of this:

              https://www.wired.com/story/an-old-m...lleys-into-it/

              and

              https://www.huffpost.com/entry/chlor...b6eab77946c3b3

              and

              https://decrypt.co/23716/bitcoin-inv...ronavirus-cure

              "Rigano and his associate James Todaro have rapidly gained attention for their paper on chloroquine, self-published on Google Docs, which they claim to have written “in consultation with Stanford University School of Medicine, UAB School of Medicine and National Academy of Sciences researchers.”

              Stanford University School of Medicine and the University of Alabama, Birmingham, School of Medicine told HuffPost that no one from their institutions was directly involved in Rigano and Todaro’s paper. The National Academy of Sciences was also not aware of any connection between Rigano or Todaro and the organization, according to a spokesperson. One UAB researcher requested that his name be removed from the paper after he was initially listed as an author and denied he had any knowledge of it or any part in its creation, he told Wired magazine in a Thursday profile of Rigano and Todaro."
              Twitter: @RonanKelly13
              The views expressed are mine alone and do not represent the views of my employer or any other person or organization.

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            • #12
              Originally posted by Pathfinder View Post
              James Todaro, MD
              @JamesTodaroMD

              8h
              Our video was taken down by Facebook & YouTube last night.

              Surprise surprise.

              You know what YouTube video is still up from 2 months ago though?

              The video with Surgisphere founder Sapan Desai on the results of the fake Lancet study that the WHO mistakenly endorsed immediately.
              --------------------------------------------------

              James Todaro, MD
              @JamesTodaroMD

              51m
              Wow. It appears Squarespace took down our website today http://americasfrontlinedoctors.com.

              We are reaching new levels of censorship.

              ---------------------------------------------------

              The Squarespace CEO is apparently extremely wealthy:


              Squarespace CEO Buys Trio of Properties in One of Montauk’s Priciest-Ever Deals

              Anthony Casalena purchased the sites that total 6 acres and include two contemporary homes using three different limited liability companies

              By
              Katherine Clarke
              July 31, 2019 10:36 am ET

              A technology CEO has pieced together three parcels of waterfront land in Montauk, N.Y., for around $42 million, closing the second biggest residential purchase in the Long Island vacation community.

              more...

              https://www.wsj.com/articles/squares...ls-11564583785


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              • #13
                Rigano and Todaro are linked with Didier Roult who made the first claims about hydroxychloroquine. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/12/m...loroquine.html

                Roult's conclusions have been widely criticized as not supported by his data. "According to a statement issued April 3 by the International Society of Antimicrobial Chemotherapy (ISAC), the vanguard study cited by Trump and others in their endorsement of hydroxychloroquine “does not meet the Society’s expected standard, especially relating to the lack of better explanations of the inclusion criteria and the triage of patients to ensure patient safety.” "
                https://www.the-scientist.com/news-o...ne-study-67405

                For some peer reviewed studies and commentary: Hydroxychloroquine Is Dead And Buried. So, Let's Dig It Up And Bury It Again.
                By Josh Bloom — July 23, 2020
                https://www.acsh.org/news/2020/07/23...it-again-14924

                and
                All the Ways the Influential Hydroxychloroquine Study Was Crap
                By Ed Cara on 14 Jul 2020 at 3:30PM

                "...one of Raoult’s co-authors, Jean-Marc Rolain, was also the editor-in-chief of the journal where it was published"

                https://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2020/07/al...tudy-was-crap/
                Twitter: @RonanKelly13
                The views expressed are mine alone and do not represent the views of my employer or any other person or organization.

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                • #14
                  Op-ed by Harvey A. Risch, MD, PhD , Professor of Epidemiology, Yale School of Public Health: https://www.newsweek.com/key-defeati...pinion-1519535


                  Cuba: Early hydroxychloroquine potent against COVID-19: https://www.aa.com.tr/en/americas/cu...vid-19/1905650

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                  • #15
                    A major error is found in the article : Early Outpatient Treatment of Symptomatic, High_Risk Covid-19 Patients that Should be Ramped-Up Immediately as Key to the Pandemic Crisis, by Harvey Risch, which highlights how the work by Prof. Raoult should be read and considered.
                    https://watermark.silverchair.com/kw...fF7VbiGHvt_DEg
                    Twitter: @RonanKelly13
                    The views expressed are mine alone and do not represent the views of my employer or any other person or organization.

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                    • Mary Wilson
                      Mary Wilson commented
                      Editing a comment
                      I removed this comment because I posted the article. Thanks for understanding
                      Last edited by Mary Wilson; July 28, 2020, 06:42 PM.
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