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  • Emily
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    Or it could be just another sign of China's callous disregard for the human rights of this ethnic group.
    https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/...ies#post879466

  • kiwibird
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    Yet in Beijing, public transportation wasn't shut and only neighborhoods near high-risk clusters were put under full lockdown. The measures in Urumqi are even stricter -- a sign of how seriously Chinese authorities are taking any reemergence of the virus.
    From the CNN article

  • kiwibird
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    https://edition.cnn.com/2020/07/20/a...hnk/index.html

    (CNN)A "wartime" state has been declared in the capital of Xinjiang, home to China's persecuted Muslim-majority Uyghur ethnic group, as authorities implement strict and sweeping measures to stem a spike in coronavirus cases.

    The city of Urumqi reported 17 local infections Sunday, meaning that 47 cases have been identified since last Wednesday. Before that, it had not recorded a single case in nearly five months, according to the Xinjiang health authorities.
    Since last week, Urumqi has also recorded 50 asymptomatic cases. In China, these are not considered confirmed cases under government guidelines.To stop the outbreak escalating, authorities are now implementing the so-called Beijing model.
    ...snip

    https://www.thehindu.com/news/intern...le32134666.ece
    Numbers of confirmed coronavirus cases in China’s northwestern city of Urumqi continue to rise, with another 17 reported on Monday, bringing the total in China’s latest outbreak to at least 47.

    Another five cases were brought from outside the country, according to the National Health Commission.

    No new deaths were reported, leaving the total at 4,634 among 83,682 cases, and 249 people remain in treatment. Another 158 people were being monitored in isolation for showing signs of having the virus or for testing positive without displaying symptoms.
    ...snip

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  • Emily
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    https://economictimes.indiatimes.com...w/77012081.cms
    “Infodemia” on Coronavirus pandemic creating misconceptions in Kazakhstan
    ET BureauLast Updated: Jul 17, 2020, 10:18 AM IST

    Synopsis
    Central Asia’s biggest & resource rich Kazakhstan and close partner for India, like all countries of the world, is going through its difficult period and does not hide its challenges.
    ...
    Central Asia’s biggest & resource rich Kazakhstan and close partner for India, like all countries of the world, is going through its difficult period and does not hide its challenges, officials told ET. Incorrect reporting in foreign media particularly the Chinese media has created misconceptions about the situation in Kazakhstan. In many ways Kazakhstan sets bench mark for Central Asia and therefore vested interests in media creates an incorrect perception...
    https://en.trend.az/casia/kazakhstan/3270894.html
    Kazakhstan, S Korea to step up health cooperation


    Kazakhstan 17 July 2020 04:37 (UTC+04:00)

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  • Emily
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    Originally posted by Vibrant62 View Post
    Whilst unlikely, the question has to be asked if it could be pneumonic plague.

    https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2020/...-border-a70791
    According to the citizen list, a plague station doctor, (I couldn't locate it so it may be very remote), died of COVID.
    Age: 52
    Occupation: Doctor of the branch of the Aralomorsky anti-plague station RGP at the PHV of the National Scientific Center for Highly Infectious Infections of the Ministry of Health of the Republic of Kazakhstan
    Place of residence: Kyzylorda Region
    Date and city of death:
    Have symptoms of COVID-19? Yes
    The official cause of death: COVID-19
    Status: Data is being verified

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  • Emily
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    https://akipress.com/news:645418:21y...ent_has_died_f rom_pneumonia_during_work_as_nurse_in_provisional_ hospital/
    Kyrgyzstan|health|July 14, 2020 / 05:46 PM

    21yo medical school student has died from pneumonia during work as nurse in provisional hospital

    https://akipress.com/news:645424:Med...n_Chui_region/
    Kyrgyzstan|health|July 14, 2020 / 07:03 PM

    Medical workers to start household visits in Chui region
    AKIPRESS.COM - The study of patients with coronavirus infection and community-acquired pneumonia found that patients are taken to hospitals in serious condition in Chui region making it extremely difficult for medical professionals to struggle for their lives, Turmush reported...

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  • sharon sanders
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    Our news thread about this situation:

    https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/...ge6#post877649


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  • Emily
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    The article I posted above did not mention 'Wuhan." Also see how much money the US is pouring into diagnostics and aid to that country. Part of the money was stated to be going into efforts to counter misinformation, not to produce it. Chevron's operation there is very important.

  • Emily
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    https://umytpa.kz/

    https://translate.google.com/transla...2Fumytpa.kz%2F
    Age: 60
    Occupation: Deputy akim of Almaty region
    Place of residence: Alma-Ata's region
    Date and city of death: 10/07/2020,
    Have symptoms of COVID-19? Not
    The official cause of death: bilateral pneumonia
    Occupation: Retiree
    Place of residence: Almaty
    Date and city of death: 04/07/2020, Almaty
    Have symptoms of COVID-19? Yes
    The official cause of death: Other specified brain lesions
    Age: 66
    Occupation: Radiologist at Atyrau Regional Hospital
    Place of residence: Atyrau region
    Date and city of death:
    Have symptoms of COVID-19? Yes
    The official cause of death: COVID-19
    Full list at link.

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  • gsgs
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    promed about the Chinese story :
    https://promedmail.org/promed-post/?id=20200711.7563337

    China mistranslated unspecified as unknown

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  • gsgs
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    could it recombine with other coronaviruses ? Some regions are occasionally strangely conserved at the protein-level
    We have the mystery of the receptor binding domain and the PRRA-inseertion

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  • JJackson
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    There are 28 sequences from Kazakhstan at GISAID (none at genbank) and they are all over the phlogenic tree show multiple introductions from different areas. The latest is from mid May so they can shed little light on the situation. The talk about a new SARS-2 strain is pure speculation on the part of the journalist. There are many possible explanations for the situation among those most likely, IMO, are inadequate test capacity and poor PCR test reliability due any combination of staff training, poorly matched probes or poor reagent quality. A lower probability is a new pathogen or, very unlikely, a recombination event in SARS-2. SARS-2 is not like flu it changes very slowly and the probes (there are usually 3 of them in different areas) are specifically selected to be in conserved regions in the genome making any genetic change that stops all 3 working absurdly improbable. Kyrgyzstan has no sequence data in either database.
    I have to agree with Blacknail, any article that refers to Wuhan pneumonia - rather than the official names (SARS-CoV-2 or COVID) - is suspect as it is displaying an anti-China political bias and normally is coming from Taiwan, Hong Kong and the US.
    Last edited by JJackson; July 20, 2020, 01:16 PM.

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  • Emily
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    https://newslanded.com/2020/07/12/ch...n-the-country/
    China and Kazakhstan disagree over pneumonia deaths in the country
    By Bhushan Krishnamurthy
    July 12, 2020
    ...
    ....The health ministry also admitted the fact that something is odd with pneumonia. The chief sanitary doctor also admitted that the fatality rate of the pneumonia is around 50 percent. On the other hand, the health minister said that the pneumonia of all types would be treated like COVID-19, in a way to avoid spreading.

    While the country is already suffering from 50,000 cases of COVID-19 already, this is adding an extra burden to the situation. It is said that roughly 28,000 people are having this pneumonia, and all have tested negative for COVID-19. At the moment, we do not have a clear picture of this spreading pneumonia. Further digging up will help us reveal more information about pneumonia.
    Hopefully those numbers aren't right. The US has been sending Kazakhstan a lot of aid recently. (Of course, Chevron is there.)

    https://reliefweb.int/report/kazakhs...ovid-19-crisis
    U.S. Assistance to Kazakhstan for the COVID-19 Crisis
    Source USAID Posted12 Jul 2020

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  • Vibrant62
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    Whilst unlikely, the question has to be asked if it could be pneumonic plague.

    https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2020/...-border-a70791

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  • Emily
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    One of the concerns about SARS-2 is that there could be viral interference with other coronaviruses. That was a concern about formulating vaccines, too. It sounds like people in this area could have been exposed to other novel coronaviruses.

    https://www.mdpi.com/1999-4915/11/4/356
    Mendenhall, I.H.; Kerimbayev, A.A.; Strochkov, V.M.; Sultankulova, K.T.; Kopeyev, S.K.; Su, Y.C.; Smith, G.J.; Orynbayev, M.B. Discovery and Characterization of Novel Bat Coronavirus Lineages from Kazakhstan. Viruses 2019, 11, 356.

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