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  • #61
    Interesting article contrasting Taiwan vs China's approach to the epidemic: https://thediplomat.com/2020/02/the-...itarian-china/

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    • JJackson
      JJackson commented
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      I do not know the Diplomat but this seems a very partisan take on events.

  • #62
    Source: https://finance.sina.com.cn/money/fu...f4718972.shtml


    Iran is in a hurry! Death rate 20 times higher than global average
    February 27, 2020 10:38

    旭 Qian Xuming, an associate researcher at the Middle East Institute of Shanghai International Studies University, said in an interview with Times Finance on February 25 that based on the current domestic economic environment and medical and health conditions in Iran, it is difficult to control the epidemic.

    Following the outbreak in Italy, an epidemic centered on Iran also emerged in the Middle East. Even the Iranian Deputy Minister of Health and members of the National Assembly "recruited".

    An Iranian Ministry of Health spokesperson confirmed in an interview with Iranian National Television on February 25 local time that Iranian Deputy Minister of Health Iraj Harirchi has been diagnosed with the infection and is currently being quarantined. An Iranian lawmaker, Mahmoud Sadiqi, even tweeted: "My test for a new coronavirus (nucleic acid) is positive ... I don't have much hope of continuing to live in this world."

    以来 Since the first confirmed case of coronavirus infection was reported on February 19, the number of confirmed and fatal cases announced in Iran has increased sharply in the past few days.

    汗 Jahanpur, director of the Public Relations and Information Center of the Ministry of Health of Iran, said on February 25 local time that 34 new cases of new coronary pneumonia were diagnosed in Iran, of which 16 were from Qom and 3 were dead. At present, 95 patients with new coronary pneumonia have been diagnosed in the country, and 15 patients have died.

    It is worth noting that, with the exception of Hubei, China, the global average mortality rate for new coronary pneumonia is only about 0.7%. However, in sharp contrast, the death rate from the Iranian outbreak has exceeded 15%, which is about 20 times the global average. Such a high mortality rate has raised concerns about the severity of the Iranian outbreak and the authenticity of the statistics.

    Not only that, eight Middle Eastern countries other than Iran also reported their first cases in the past two days, including Afghanistan, Bahrain, Kuwait, Iraq, and Oman, and many of these cases are directly related to Iran.

    Iran has a total of seven onshore neighbors, six of which have closed their borders with Iran. (Source: Twitter)

    At present, the UAE, Bahrain, Oman, Kuwait and other countries have restricted or stopped flights to and from Iran. At the same time, six neighboring countries, except Azerbaijan, have closed their land borders with Iran.

    When asked about the surge in Iranian cases, Michael Ryan, director of the World Health Organization's (WHO) Emergency Planning, responded on February 25 that when a country's first confirmed cases were announced, people might place too much emphasis on death Quantity, but more worryingly, the virus may have been there longer than expected.

    In addition, a WHO team has arrived in Iran on February 25.

    What is the actual outbreak?

    Although the statistical mortality rate will indeed make the mortality rate high in the case of a small number of confirmed patients, different voices have emerged in Iran regarding the actual situation of the epidemic.

    美 According to the Associated Press, Ahmad Amirabadi Farahani, a local lawmaker from Qom, the Iranian outbreak center, accused the Iranian government of concealing the number of confirmed diagnoses and deaths.

    Falahani was interviewed by local media after traveling to Tehran on February 24th local time to attend the Iranian National Assembly. He said that 10 people died of New Crown Pneumonia every day in Qom. Until the evening of February 23, as many as 50 people died of New Crown virus, and more than 250 were quarantined. "The Minister of Health should be responsible for this result, and as far as the spread of the new crown virus in Qom is concerned, I think the government's performance in controlling the virus has failed."

    It is worth mentioning that Farahani's remarks have also been cited and reported by semi-official news agencies such as the Iranian Labor News Agency (ILNA). In response, Iranian Ministry of Health spokesman Ilage Haric responded on February 24: "No one has more authoritative information than us, and sometimes people will confuse ordinary flu with new crown pneumonia and misunderstand."

    Subsequently, Harwich announced the number of confirmed cases and revealed that there are still about 900 suspected cases in Iran that are being tested for viruses.

    At the same time, the Director General of the World Health Organization, Tan Desai, said on February 24 that even if the Iranian parliamentarians' statements were not true, Iran is currently the country with the highest number of deaths due to the new coronavirus pneumonia outside China.

    耶路撒冷 According to the Jerusalem Post, the Iranian government previously organized citizens to vote in parliamentary elections on February 21. According to official statistics, at least 11 million people have voted in crowded enclosed spaces. Iranian people have doubts that the Iranian government is trying to ensure that the parliamentary elections have hidden the outbreak.

    It is worth noting that the local MP, Ahmad Sadik, who has been diagnosed with New Coronary Pneumonia, is also a member of the Iranian National Assembly on February 24.

    抗 Anti-epidemic under sanctions “willing”

    Regardless of the true situation of the Iranian epidemic, the more important question is whether Iran can control the domestic epidemic and continue to escalate. But judging from the current Iranian response measures and effects, the Iranian government may be "powerless".

    布 Abu Kaba, head of the WHO's Eastern Mediterranean Regional Office, believes Iran has the ability to respond to the outbreak because Iran has one of the best health systems in the Middle East. But he is also concerned that US sanctions will affect Iran's ability to respond to the outbreak.

    In response to the epidemic, the Iranian government announced on February 24 that schools, cinemas and other cultural venues in 14 of the country's 31 provinces will be closed. All cultural and artistic activities that lead to crowd gathering will be banned for a week.

    It is reported that the measure was originally targeted at Qom Province, but as the epidemic has worsened, the measure has now been extended to western and northern Iran's provinces, including: Makazi, Gilan, Ardabil, Kerman Shah, Qazvin, Zanjan, Mazandaran, Golestan, Hamidan, Alberts, Semnan, Kurdistan and Tehran.

    The Iranian Ministry of Health also announced on February 24 that the medical expenses related to new coronary pneumonia will be borne by the government. In each city, at least one hospital will be set up to receive, detect and treat new cases of coronavirus. In addition, the Iranian government has designated at least 230 hospitals for the treatment of infectious diseases.

    From the perspective of the implementation of the measures, the domestic epidemic prevention work seems to be in order. But in Qom, the hardest-hit area in Iran, the situation is not optimistic.

    Mohammad R?za Ghadir, the dean of kum University Hospital, called for help from local television on February 24: "We are on the front line, we need help and help Qum."

    Mr. Farahani also said that Qom's local nurses lacked proper protective equipment and that some health experts had left Qom.

    According to Al Jazeera, in a local hospital in Gilan province in northern Iran, a nurse at a local hospital stated, "Although we are on the front line of caring for a suspected infection, we do not have standard protective clothing or masks, nor do we have the necessary disinfectants Hand sanitizer. The hospital only distributed disposable gowns for surgery. "

    Under long-term economic sanctions, Iran's imports and exports were severely hit. The outbreak of the new crown pneumonia epidemic made it difficult for Iran's medical supplies to be replenished.

    In response, Qian Xuming, an associate researcher at the Middle East Institute of Shanghai International Studies University, said in an interview with Times Finance on February 25 that it is difficult to control the epidemic in the short term based on the current domestic economic environment and medical and health conditions in Iran.

    To make matters worse, on February 21st local time, the Paris-based Anti-Money Laundering Financial Action Task Force (FATF) blacklisted Iran, putting greater financial pressure on Iran and Iranian banks.

    According to the Iranian semi-official news agency ILNA, Ramin Fallah, a member of the Iranian Medical Equipment Importers Association, said on February 23 that many international companies have prepared to provide Iran with a new coronavirus detection kit, but due to US sanctions And the new sanctions imposed on Iran by anti-money laundering authorities have made Iran unable to provide them with funding.

    金融 According to the Financial Times on February 24, only the World Health Organization has bypassed these sanctions to help Iran get four sets of diagnostic equipment made in Europe, and more are still on the way.

    The epidemic could spread across the Middle East

    With the outbreak of the Iranian epidemic, confirmed cases related to Iran have also appeared in various countries in the Middle East, which has drawn great attention from governments, because once the outbreak of the Iranian epidemic is out of control, it may spread to the entire Middle East.

    In this regard, Qian Xuming pointed out that Qom is the area where the Iranian epidemic occurred first and is also the worst. At the same time, it is also a shrine of Islamic Shiites. Every year, millions of Muslim pilgrims will go to Qom for pilgrimage. "Religious places are crowded and highly contagious, and pilgrims who visit Qom will return to their home countries and spread the virus to other countries, which may further expand the epidemic in the Middle East."

    According to previous statistics from the Persian Channel, Qom receives about 22 million tourists each year, of which about 2.5 million come from outside Iran.

    Times Finance and Economics has calculated the outbreak data of the Middle East countries as of 12 noon on February 26 according to relevant official reports:

    Afghanistan: 1 confirmed diagnosis

    The Afghan Ministry of Health announced the first case of new coronary pneumonia on February 24. The man was diagnosed after returning to Afghanistan from Qom, Iran. The Afghan government has closed its border with Iran.

    United Arab Emirates: 13 confirmed cases

    There are currently 13 confirmed cases in the UAE, of which the newly confirmed case on February 24 is an Iranian couple. The government suspended all flights to and from Iran for a week and barred citizens from travelling to Iran. The UAE Ministry of Foreign Affairs also called on UAE citizens currently in Iran to contact the UAE embassy.

    Oman: 4 confirmed cases

    The Ministry of Health of Oman announced two new confirmed cases of new coronary pneumonia on February 25. Both patients returned home after traveling from Iran. Oman currently suspends flights to and from Iran.

    Babalim: 23 confirmed cases

    The Bahrain Ministry of Health announced on the evening of the 25th that six new cases of new pneumonia infections were reported. This is the third time that the number of infected people has been increased. The infected persons were four men and two women, both Bahraini, who had visited Iran as in previous cases and then returned to Bahrain via Sharjah airport. This means that a total of 23 infected people in Bahrain had Iranian travel history. The Ministry of Education of Bahrain announced on the same day that all public and private schools, including kindergartens, will be closed for two weeks starting February 26.

    Palestine: No confirmed case

    No confirmed cases have yet appeared in Palestine, but some restaurants and public facilities previously visited by Korean tourists have been closed.

    Qatar: No confirmed cases

    No confirmed cases have occurred in Qatar, but passengers from Iran and South Korea have been quarantined.

    Kuwait: 11 confirmed cases

    According to the Kuwait News Agency (KUNA), on the 25th local time, the Ministry of Health of Kuwait stated that two new cases of pneumonia and pneumonia were newly diagnosed, resulting in a total of 11 confirmed cases in the country. As of February 23, Kuwait had evacuated 800 nationals from Iran and blocked borders and ports.

    Lebanon: 1 confirmed diagnosis

    The first confirmed case of new coronavirus was found on February 22 by the Lebanese Ministry of Health, a 45-year-old female who had traveled to Qom, Iran. It is worth noting that Lebanon's Shiite population is large. Every year thousands of Lebanese make regular pilgrimages to Shiite shrines in Iran, including Qom.

    Saudi Arabia: No confirmed cases

    There is no confirmed case of new coronary pneumonia in Saudi Arabia. The Saudi government announced on February 24: all foreign tourists who have visited Iran must enter Iran 14 days after leaving Iran to prevent the spread of the virus caused by the gathering of religious activities in the two holy Islamic cities of Mecca and Medina.

    Syria: No confirmed cases reported

    No confirmed case of new coronary pneumonia has been reported in Syria, but due to the ongoing civil war in Syria, the government may not have time to confirm the statistics.

    Yemen: No confirmed cases reported

    Yemen has yet to report confirmed cases of new coronary pneumonia, but similar to Syria, Yemeni government forces are currently in conflict with the Houthi armed forces, and the government may not have the time to confirm the statistics.

    Israel: 6 confirmed cases

    The Israeli Ministry of Health announced on February 24 that of the 11 people returning to Israel from the Diamond Princess cruise ship on February 21, one was diagnosed. Currently, two people diagnosed in Israel are from the Diamond Princess, and the four Israeli patients who were previously confirmed on the cruise are still receiving treatment in Japan. As a result, the total number of confirmed cases in Israel is currently six.

    Iraq: 5 confirmed cases

    The Iraqi Ministry of Health stated on February 25 that four new cases of new crown pneumonia have been confirmed in the country's Kirkuk province, and the total number of new cases of new crown pneumonia in Iraq has increased to five. The four new patients came from the same family who had travelled to Iran and are now being treated in isolation.

    As early as February 20, Iraq had announced that it would close its border with Iran and grounded the route between Iran and Iran. The Iraqi government extended a travel restriction order against Iranians by 15 days on February 24. It is worth noting that Iraq's healthcare environment is harsh. According to an estimate by the World Health Organization in 2018, there are fewer than 10 doctors per 10,000 population in Iraq.

    Jordan: No confirmed cases

    No confirmed cases have yet appeared in Jordan, but the Jordanian government also announced on February 23 that it temporarily banned non-Jordanian visitors from Iran, South Korea and China.

    In the evaluation report of the Global Health Security Index, the medical conditions in the Middle East are generally poor. (Source: GHS Index official website)

    It is worth mentioning that the medical conditions in the Middle East are generally poor, and once the epidemic spreads, it may be difficult to control.

    In the Global Health Security Index (GHS Index) released in October 2019, of the 195 countries evaluated, the highest ranking in the Middle East was Israel and the UAE, ranked 54th and 56th, and Lebanon and Oman Tied for 73rd, Jordan and Qatar ranked 80th and 82nd.

    其余 The rest of the Middle East countries, such as Iran and Iraq, have not reached the average score. Iran ranks 97th, Afghanistan 130th, and Iraq 167th. Syria and Yemen, which have suffered many years of war, are among the 10 lowest ranked countries.

    It is understood that the index is evaluated based on six indicators: disease prevention measures, detection capabilities, response efficiency, national health, sanitary standards, and epidemic risk.

    From this perspective, the general health situation in the Middle East may not be able to withstand the outbreak.

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    • #63
      So the good news is it looks like they were at a medical center who knows how to do PPE and has taken care of coronavirus patients but the bad news is they were 1. Transferred in and 2. There for over a week. Hard to be perfect on PPE.

      Plus the amount of time means that others could already be sick and spreading.

      So it begins for the US.

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      • #64
        I assume they tested the recent pneumonia deaths first in IRAN, when they discovered COVID
        I'm interested in expert panflu damage estimates
        my current links: http://bit.ly/hFI7H ILI-charts: http://bit.ly/CcRgT

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        • #65
          Trump's "State of the Union Adress"

          [ wrt. keywords China and Coronavirus only ]

          --------------------
          I also promised our citizens that I would impose tariffs to
          confront China's massive theft of American jobs.
          -----------------------
          For decades, China has taken advantage of the United States,
          now we have changed. At the same time, we have the best
          relationship we have ever had with China
          ------------------
          Protecting Americans' health also means fighting infectious diseases.
          We are coordinating with the Chinese government and working closely
          together on the Coronavirus outbreak in China.
          My Administration will take all necessary steps to safeguard our
          citizens from this threat.
          --------------------

          ## includeing the WHO recommendations about China-like travel restrictions,
          "lockdown" and quarantine ?

          ## there is only a very small passage about coronavirus in the speech,
          Trump doesn't consider this really important,
          In deep contrast to China's "war against the virus (devil)", which has the top priority.
          ## OK, it's not there yet in USA but the danger is there (50%?) and you must
          look into the future not summarise the past

          ------------------------------------------------------------------------
          Trump also said he is in contact with China and he compares it with flu.

          And the Chinese deaths are low recently, maybe they have
          (secret) info that the deathrate is lower now, presumably due
          to new treatment methods, and that could be the reason for the
          Trump's relax

          ------------------------------------------
          separate Trump statement concerning coronavirus
          https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/p...dy/4887341002/

          "Trump says : we are ready"
          "We're very, very ready for this," "The risk to the American people remains very low."
          don’t believe it is inevitable that the virus will spread in the United States
          but it “probably” will.

          I'm interested in expert panflu damage estimates
          my current links: http://bit.ly/hFI7H ILI-charts: http://bit.ly/CcRgT

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          • #66
            California:
            NEWS FROM AROUND THE OJAI VALLEY

            U.S. Dept. of Health and Human Services, Ventura County Health and Human Services provide update on Point Mugu coronavirus center today
            Published: Wednesday, 26 February 2020 13:43


            The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services held a press conference in Camarillo Wednesday, Feb. 26, in regard to the COVID-19 novel coronavirus quarantine center at Naval Base Ventura County-Point Mugu.
            ...At 1:30 p.m. today, Orange County officials announced a local emergency as well as a local health emergency in response to novel coronavirus. This announcement comes one day after San Francisco declared a local emergency Feb. 25. ...

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            • Commonground
              Commonground commented
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              A community meeting — closed to the general public and media — was held Monday, Feb. 24, at 6:30 p.m. at the Pt. Mugu Theater. A doctor from the Centers for Disease Control was one of the speakers.

            • Commonground
              Commonground commented
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              A man is being quarantined at Naval Base Ventura County-Point Mugu, where it was announced late Sunday, Feb. 23, that the base might be used as a quarantine site for travelers being monitored for the novel coronavirus, officially known as COVID-19.
              The traveler was taken to the base Sunday, Feb. 23, and local officials said the traveler is healthy and is being monitored based only on travel history. The traveler is a U.S. citizen who lives outside of California, who was going to travel from Beijing to LAX and then onward domestic travel.

          • #67
            Source: https://metro.co.uk/2020/02/27/pope-...irus-12314029/

            Pope Francis falls ill day after supporting people with coronavirus
            Jen Mills
            Thursday 27 Feb 2020 12:41 pm S

            Pope Francis has missed a planned Mass with clergy in Rome due to an unspecified illness. The Vatican said the pontiff, 83, had a ‘slight indisposition’ and would proceed with the rest of his planned work today but ‘preferred to stay near Santa Marta’, the Vatican hotel where he lives. There was no word from the Vatican about the nature of his illness, but the pope was seen coughing and blowing his nose during the Ash Wednesday Mass...

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            • #68

              Coronavirus far more likely than Sars to bond to human cells due to HIV-like mutation, scientists say
              Research by team from Nankai University shows new virus has mutated gene similar to those found in HIV and Ebola
              Finding may help scientists understand how the infection spreads and where it came from
              Stephen Chen in Beijing
              Published: 12:30am, 27 Feb, 2020
              Updated: 1:32am, 27 Feb, 2020

              The new coronavirus has an HIV-like mutation that means its ability to bind with human cells could be up to 1,000 times as strong as the Sars virus, according to new research by scientists in China and Europe.

              The discovery could help to explain not only how the infection has spread but also where it came from and how best to fight it.

              Scientists showed that Sars (severe acute respiratory syndrome) entered the human body by binding with a receptor protein called ACE2 on a cell membrane. And some early studies suggested that the new coronavirus, which shares about 80 per cent of the genetic structure of Sars, might follow a similar path.

              But the ACE2 protein does not exist in large quantities in healthy people, and this partly helped to limit the scale of the Sars outbreak of 2002-03, in which infected about 8,000 people around the world...

              Read more: https://www.scmp.com/news/china/soci...scientists-say

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              • Emily
                Emily commented
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                They saw HIV-1 similarities in SARS back in 2003, but the new findings seem to be looking at another mechanism.

                Background Severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) is a febrile respiratory illness. The disease has been etiologically linked to a novel coronavirus that has been named the SARS-associated coronavirus (SARS-CoV), whose genome was recently sequenced. Since it is a member of the Coronaviridae, its spike protein (S2) is believed to play a central role in viral entry by facilitating fusion between the viral and host cell membranes. The protein responsible for viral-induced membrane fusion of HIV-1 (gp41) differs in length, and has no sequence homology with S2. Results Sequence analysis reveals that the two viral proteins share the sequence motifs that construct their active conformation. These include (1) an N-terminal leucine/isoleucine zipper-like sequence, and (2) a C-terminal heptad repeat located upstream of (3) an aromatic residue-rich region juxtaposed to the (4) transmembrane segment. Conclusions This study points to a similar mode of action for the two viral proteins, suggesting that anti-viral strategy that targets the viral-induced membrane fusion step can be adopted from HIV-1 to SARS-CoV. Recently the FDA approved Enfuvirtide, a synthetic peptide corresponding to the C-terminal heptad repeat of HIV-1 gp41, as an anti-AIDS agent. Enfuvirtide and C34, another anti HIV-1 peptide, exert their inhibitory activity by binding to a leucine/isoleucine zipper-like sequence in gp41, thus inhibiting a conformational change of gp41 required for its activation. We suggest that peptides corresponding to the C-terminal heptad repeat of the S2 protein may serve as inhibitors for SARS-CoV entry.

                Cloaked similarity between HIV-1 and SARS-CoV suggests an anti-SARS strategy

            • #69
              Source: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news...te-un-12476404

              COVID-19 quarantines must be 'proportionate', respect rights: UN
              27 Feb 2020 06:38PM
              (Updated: 27 Feb 2020 06:50PM)


              GENEVA: Countries should only use quarantine against the deadly coronavirus when truly needed, and must respect the rights of those in isolation, the UN rights chief said Thursday (Feb 27).

              Addressing the UN Human Rights Council, Michelle Bachelet hailed the medical teams around the world working to rein in the COVID-19 outbreak that has killed more than 2,700 people and infected more than 80,000 worldwide...

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              • Shiloh
                Shiloh commented
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                This should have been said a month or so ago...

            • #70

              Wednesday, February 26, 2020
              Iran News Wire
              Local reports: Iran’s COVID-19 fatalities and infections are alarming
              IranNewsWire by IranNewsWire

              Local reports and messages from Iranians indicate that the number of Iran’s COVID-19 fatalities and infections are much higher than officials have announced.

              Iran’s Ministry of Health has put Iran’s COVID-19 fatalities at 19 with 139 infections.

              In an audio file, a woman who was identified as a health worker in Tehran’s Shohada Hospital in Yaft Abad, said that only during her shift, she recorded 17 COVID-19 fatalities at the hospital.

              A translation of the audio file can be found below...

              Read more at: https://irannewswire.org/local-repor...ions-alarming/

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              • #71
                can it be that Iran has another virus, higher CFR ? Another introduction from animals ? A mutation ?
                The start must have been very early in Jan.. How long that we see a sequence from Iran
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                2h , @drjahanpur
                With the president's approval, all universities will be closed for a week, schools in areas the Ministry
                of Health says will be closed for three days.
                All cultural, religious, cinema and religious gatherings will be closed by the end of next week.
                Friday prayers will not be held in the announced provinces and the retreat will be held
                I'm interested in expert panflu damage estimates
                my current links: http://bit.ly/hFI7H ILI-charts: http://bit.ly/CcRgT

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                • Shiloh
                  Shiloh commented
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                  There's a WHO team on the ground in Iran...perhaps they can get the answers.

                • JJackson
                  JJackson commented
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                  I think it is just normal COVID but were slow at picking it up. My guess - it has been circulating for some time and the CFR is normal, or at least it will be once they have an accurate picture of how much community transmission there has been. The CFR probably will not come down to Chinese levels because they can not match their public health infrastructure and they do not have the experience yet. I would however like to see some sequences ASAP just to be sure there has not been a significant mutation.

                • Shiloh
                  Shiloh commented
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                  See Post #63 above...given the numbers of exported cases, it has been circulating for some time. They've opted not to quarantine, so are treating it as they would the flu. Some of the cases could be co-infected since its still flu season there. Also, hospitals are short of supplies as described in the article. I really am hoping the WHO delegation will tell us the true story of what is going on there. One has to remember that its all highly politicized...everyone reporting on it has an agenda - the Iranian govt., the ex-pat community, the Sunni, the Shite believers.

              • #72
                I haven't seen this discussed, but with COVID-19 in the Middle East, what could happen if someone is co-infected with COVID and MERS?
                "I know God will not give me anything I can't handle. I just wish that He didn't trust me so much." - Mother Teresa of Calcutta

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                • Shiloh
                  Shiloh commented
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                  I've been wondering about that as well, but haven't seen any discussion on the web.

              • #73
                this forum is badly organised now for discussion, IMO . It's a pain to browse threads, find replies to your posts,
                find this very thread in the big number of threads and recent activities.
                It may have been good for disease-tracking in times of low-volume discussion,
                but now it's bad (IMO)

                DAX=12050 , dow=25588
                I made a forum https://ncovinfo.createaforum.com/
                but any other such forum would be fine. We can easily make

                (with chat)
                or such and link to it and take the same admins.moderators as here

                11971,25435 , 11942,25370

                --------------edit------------------
                OK, it seems that in firefox I can type discussion-thread-iii in the URL-window and it finds this
                thread from my browsing history
                I'm interested in expert panflu damage estimates
                my current links: http://bit.ly/hFI7H ILI-charts: http://bit.ly/CcRgT

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                • #74
                  I haven't seen a forum section for New Zealand, so I'll leave this here:



                  There is a suspected case of coronavirus in New Zealand. "We have testing underway on a suspected case and we are expecting the final results of that testing this afternoon," Director-General of Health Ashley Bloomfield said.

                  More than 130 tests have been completed to date, all negative. Five tests are underway, with one of those being for the suspected case. The suspected case is a person who traveled to New Zealand earlier this week from Iran. They are currently being looked after at Auckland City Hospital.

                  (continues)

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                  • #75
                    Originally posted by Sharky View Post
                    I haven't seen a forum section for New Zealand, so I'll leave this here:



                    There is a suspected case of coronavirus in New Zealand. "We have testing underway on a suspected case and we are expecting the final results of that testing this afternoon," Director-General of Health Ashley Bloomfield said.

                    More than 130 tests have been completed to date, all negative. Five tests are underway, with one of those being for the suspected case. The suspected case is a person who traveled to New Zealand earlier this week from Iran. They are currently being looked after at Auckland City Hospital.

                    (continues)
                    Thanks for this, Sharky. I don't see a New Zealand section yet, either.


                    We'll have to get one now.
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