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  • #16
    Re: Discussion: What are the risks involved with co-infection between H1N1pdm09 and the novel coronavirus?

    The paucity of available information about these patients should induce a much more cautious approach about commentators in mainstream media.

    We don't know:

    --- demographics of patients (except for age, we haven't info about job, travel, citizenship (a part the 'resident' status in a country or another), reason for the movement abroad, people they've seen, socioeconomic status); these people could be as wealthier enough to be treated and medvac from Arabic Paeninsula to high skill institution abroad).

    --- clinical course: very few data were released about timing of infection, symptoms, treatment regimes, diagnostic tests, chest objectivity etc.

    --- anatomo-pathological findings during necroscopic examinations, useful to distinguish between tissues damages from nCoV and other possible co-factors;

    --- serosurveys in contacts;

    --- possible link between patients (are they part of a group of people of 'interest', politicians, diplomacies, businessmen?).

    Before starting to say that - as Mr Osterholm - the epidemic valve is opening, I would suggest authorities to disclose more on these patients and the reason behind their prompt diagnosis.

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    • #17
      Re: Discussion: What are the risks involved with co-infection between H1N1pdm09 and the novel coronavirus?

      He may know for sure, way more than we do. It is pretty obvious to them and us, that a new infection was confirmed in the UK. Apparently h2h. I think he is just stating the obvious in comparison to the first SARS outbreak. That it started slowly, but surely. You got 1 thing right though, they aren't saying very much. We should see this as a wake up call at the very least.
      I am glad we have such a good network of hound dogs on the trail
      CSI:WORLD http://swineflumagazine.blogspot.com/

      treyfish2004@yahoo.com

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      • #18
        Re: Discussion: What are the risks involved with co-infection between H1N1pdm09 and the novel coronavirus?

        WHO says the virus is probably more widespread than just the Middle East and has advised countries to test any people with unexplained pneumonia.

        Is it possible this is in the US?

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        • #19
          Re: Discussion: What are the risks involved with co-infection between H1N1pdm09 and the novel coronavirus?

          It could be eveywhere.

          The problem is to understand why does it cause illness in a such strange manner?

          Too little is known to draw any conclusion at the time.

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          • #20
            Re: Discussion: What are the risks involved with co-infection between H1N1pdm09 and the novel coronavirus?

            http://www.who.int/csr/don/2013_02_11b/en/index.html

            http://www.who.int/csr/don/2012_09_29/en/index.html
            no evidence so far of person to person transmission of the novel coronavirus.

            http://www.who.int/csr/disease/coron.../en/index.html
            Based on current information, it does not appear to transmit easily between people,
            unlike the SARS virus.

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            der spiegel : http://www.spiegel.de/gesundheit/dia...-a-882908.html

            (in German. apparently h2h now)
            The latest case but now for the first time it differs: infected British
            itself not in the Middle East had traveled according to the health
            authorities in London. He was in Birmingham in medical treatment.
            Although there first is a strong reference to the possibility of human
            to human transmission with the current case in the United Kingdom,
            the danger to the public was on very small, British experts.
            Also the German Robert Koch-Institut (RKI) speaks of a "limited
            human to human transmission" and classified the risk of disease
            in Germany recently as low.
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            I'm interested in expert panflu damage estimates
            my current links: [url]http://bit.ly/hFI7H[/url] ILI-charts: [url]http://bit.ly/CcRgT[/url]

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            • #21
              Re: Discussion: What are the risks involved with co-infection between H1N1pdm09 and the novel coronavirus?

              Originally posted by Treyfish View Post
              If dude had both diseases at the same time, and you can't readily tell them apart, then mild cases may be present. Since we don't know which one he caught first, or where, or exactly when, we don't know much. IMO, A new coronavirus may be able to re-assort with camel flu or pig flu or dog flu or maybe a human flu. Either way, get a bunch of people with H1N1, and try to guess which one has the new "SAUDI SARS" Can't do it, or tell how far and fast it is spreading by cough or touch..not to say it won't mutate by itself. Sars #1 did a fine job. We already saw that it can go h2h in Jordan.
              They are saying it is hard to spread h2h this week. In 10 days they may be telling us something completely different..

              If dude has both, and coughing up some crony in your face, he may give it to you.
              Since it is so new and shiny, I wouldn't put anything past it. IF not Swine flu, then what disease will/can mutate with it?? Tell ya what, drop it off in Cambodia or Nam and see what jumps up.
              Although authorities still aren't how this particular virus is spread, they believe that, like other coronaviruses, it could be spread through the air in droplets that are produced when a person coughs or sneezes. Like the flu, it could be highly contagious.http://www.scienceworldreport.com/ar...ly-british.htm
              CSI:WORLD http://swineflumagazine.blogspot.com/

              treyfish2004@yahoo.com

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