Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Science paper: The Global Circulation of Seasonal Influenza A (H3N2) Viruses

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • #16
    Re: Science paper: The Global Circulation of Seasonal Influenza A (H3N2) Viruses

    antigenic data doesn't say much about the evolution.
    80% of mutations are synonymous and thus missed by antigenic analysis.

    Most of the data is 2002-2006, they don't have 2007 yet, let alone 2008.
    This period was disturbed by the appearance of the Fujian strain ,
    especially in HA, so, the spreading pattern is even harder to see.

    I haven't seen the pictures and tables, but I don't feel so
    strongly about their conclusions yet.

    It would be useful to have a few genomes at least each year from
    South America, China, Africa, Europe.

    More suitable to study the evolution seems to be the
    H3N2-genome data 1993-2007 from USA which well covers each
    year, except a few H1N1-years.
    This data is better distributed over time and covers the whole genome,
    not only HA1. OTOH it's only USA.

    One idea is to examine each polymorphism, each change from
    Udorn/72 separately. Where it first appeared before it
    became established in a substrain. Then make a statistics
    of the timing within the year.

    One idea is to examine all sequence-pairs and calculate the
    time of their common anchestor. If most such anchestors
    of USA-sequences are dated in summer, then they probably were
    seeded from the Southern Hemisphere.
    I implemented it for 800 US-genomes, see the picture here:


    I haven't examined it yet, but I guess, the large peaks in summer 1996,1997
    are from the Fujian strain in 2003, whose last common anchestor with
    the co-circulating normal,old H3N2 was calculated to have lived in 1996
    ----ahh, no. 2003-1996 is more than 4 years, so this should have been excluded

    -----------------------------

    full H3N2-genomes from genbank, November-April isolates 1993-2007 in USA:

    average distance between 2 H3N2-viruses in consecutive seasons in USA since 1993 was 179
    average distance between 2 H3N2-viruses two seasons apart in USA since 1993 was 217

    average accumulation of differences since 1968 was 30 per year.
    I'm interested in expert panflu damage estimates
    my current links: http://bit.ly/hFI7H ILI-charts: http://bit.ly/CcRgT

    Comment


    • #17
      Re: Science paper: The Global Circulation of Seasonal Influenza A (H3N2) Viruses

      why should the virus go out of the SE-Asean network, when it knows,
      it won't durvive in America,Europe and needs to be newly seeded
      from Asia anyway ?
      Or better : why should such a virus be able to compete with viruses
      which specialize on SE-Asia directly ?

      Or similarly : why should an avian virus enter the one-end-road "humans",
      where it will be wiped out in the next pandemic by a new virus ?

      This can't be so well examined by looking at HA alone.
      Viruses do reassort.
      I'm interested in expert panflu damage estimates
      my current links: http://bit.ly/hFI7H ILI-charts: http://bit.ly/CcRgT

      Comment


      • #18
        Re: Science paper: The Global Circulation of Seasonal Influenza A (H3N2) Viruses

        lots of questions :

        what is the advantage of the SE-Asean network for flu,
        why does it evolve and maintain there but not in other regions
        of the world ? (if it's as suggested in the paper)
        Monsun rains ? Large human population in tropical regions ?
        But fly likes it cold
        Is there maybe another reservoir, confined to SE-Asia,
        where flu can evolve or at least survive some weeks or months
        in the environment ?

        Is there a similar network for birds ?
        For other respiratory viruses ?
        Qinghai H5N1 apparantly is maintained in the birds which breed
        in the large West-Sibirian Wetlands and overwinter in the
        Kaspian and Black Sea- regions.
        H5N1 in Chinese birds shows extraordinary diversity with lots of reassortments not found elsewhere.
        Most flu-types have been found to be maintained and coexist in
        bird-populations in Northern Europe, Alberta(Canada),
        Africa,China.

        H5N1 in Indonesia is supposed to evolve in Indonesia alone,
        not found elsewhere. Can a pandemic strain evolve and spread from
        Indonesia, which is outside the SE-Asia-flu-network

        Is this paper evidence that 1918 H1N1 also originated in SE-Asia ?

        I assume that new flu-strains only more often(~80%?) originate
        in SE-Asia but still sometimes originate in America,Africa,Europe

        where to discuss these questions ?
        I'm interested in expert panflu damage estimates
        my current links: http://bit.ly/hFI7H ILI-charts: http://bit.ly/CcRgT

        Comment


        • #19
          Re: Science paper: The Global Circulation of Seasonal Influenza A (H3N2) Viruses

          text here:


          pictures and some explantions here:



          let's merge the threads interforumwise
          I'm interested in expert panflu damage estimates
          my current links: http://bit.ly/hFI7H ILI-charts: http://bit.ly/CcRgT

          Comment


          • #20
            Re: Science paper: The Global Circulation of Seasonal Influenza A (H3N2) Viruses

            the 1568 H3N2-HA1-sequences 2002-2006 from the paper

            discussed also here:

            are available now at genbank. I put them in one big computer-readable file here:

            113 of these had no day of sampling, only the year, so I examined
            only the 1455 remaining ones:


            What I've done so far : spotted 9 groups which could be separated
            and looked at the virus which appeared first in each group.

            mutations picture here


            Code:
            "Hunan", 59 viruses 
            739 >20-Feb-2004,5162,6,China: Hunan,HUNAN/204 
            ... 
            753 >09-May-2004,5243,2,Canada,Canada/578 
            ... 
            748 >28-Feb-2005,5536,1,Russia: Moscow,MOSCOW/7 
            --------- 
            
            "Fujian", 304 viruses 
            683 >06-Jun-2002,4540,6,China: Hong Kong,Hong-Kong/1143 
            717 >17-Jul-2002,4581,5,Australia: Townsville,TOWNSVILLE/4 
            716 >17-Jul-2002,4581,5,Philippines,Philippines/160283 
            684 >18-Jul-2002,4582,5,Philippines,PHILIPPINES/471 
            693 >18-Jul-2002,4582,5,Philippines,PHILIPPINES/472 
            330 >26-Jul-2002,4590,6,China: Hong Kong,Hong-Kong/1510 
            718 >02-Aug-2002,4597,6,China: Hong Kong,Hong-Kong/1554 
            335 >11-Aug-2002,4606,6,China: Fujian,FUJIAN/411 
            696 >20-Aug-2002,4615,6,China: Hunan,Hunan/407 
            333 >09-Sep-2002,4634,6,Malaysia,MALAYSIA/145 
            680 >25-Sep-2002,4650,6,Taiwan,TAIWAN/8 
            688 >26-Oct-2002,4681,5,Guam,Guam/228 
            682 >31-Oct-2002,4686,6,South Korea: Kwangju,KWANGJU/219 
            685 >04-Nov-2002,4690,2,USA: New Jersey,New-Jersey/4 
            ... 
            285 >02-Dec-2002,4718,2,USA: Alaska,Alaska/AK-RSP-02-753 
            ... 
            681 >10-Dec-2002,4726,1,Netherlands,NETHERLANDS/368 
            ... 
            371 >24-Dec-2002,4740,2,USA: Hawaii,Hawaii/HI-02-4055 
            ... 
            715 >23-Jan-2003,4770,4,Egypt,Egypt/EG-2003900525 
            ... 
            497 >08-Feb-2003,4785,5,New Zealand: Christchurch,CHRISTCHURCH/302 
            ... 
            695 >03-Mar-2003,4811,6,India,India/II-031741-TS 
            ... 
            367 >12-May-2003,4881,3,Chile,Chile/CI-03-6267 
            --------- 
            
            "Wuhan" , 142 viruses 
            956 >26-Sep-1995,2094,6,China: Wuhan,WUHAN/359 
            881 >15-Aug-2000,3879,5,Australia: Victoria,VICTORIA/544 
            957 >29-Oct-2001,4319,5,Australia: Adelaide,SOUTHAustralia/102/2001 
            934 >01-Jan-2002,4383,2,USA: Louisiana,Louisiana/2 
            847 >01-Jan-2002,4383,6,China: Tianjin,Tianjin/5 
            ...(existed already in 2002, when examination started) 
            --------- 
            
            "HK/223" , 473 viruses 
            324 >24-Feb-2005,5532,6,China: Hong Kong,HONG-KONG/223 
            621 >11-Mar-2005,5549,6,Japan: Osaka,OSAKA/29 
            439 >23-Mar-2005,5561,6,China: Jiangxi,JIANGXI/198 
            ... 
            685 >24-May-2005,5623,5,New Zealand: Christchurch,CHRISTCHURCH/20 
            ... 
            333 >30-May-2005,5629,5,Australia: Darwin,DARWIN/1 
            706 >30-May-2005,5629,5,Philippines,PHILIPPINES/498 
            729 >30-May-2005,5629,6,Thailand,THAILAND/196 
            ... 
            268 >23-Jun-2005,5652,2,USA: South Carolina,South-Carolina/SC-SC05-217-ORIGINAL 
            ... 
            475 >13-Nov-2005,5795,1,France: Paris,Pennsylvania/PA-5V00335 
            ... 
            631 >18-Jan-2006,5861,3,Chile,Chile/CL-6928 
            ... 
            622 >05-Jul-2006,6030,4,South Africa: Johannesburg,JOHANNESBURG/503 
            --------- 
            
            "Christchurch", 163 viruses 
            345 >08-Feb-2003,4785,5,New Zealand: Christchurch,CHRISTCHURCH/302 
            387 >09-Mar-2003,4817,5,Australia: Darwin,DARWIN/4 
            ... 
            476 >27-Aug-2003,4987,2,USA: Connecticut,Connecticut/CT-767 
            ... 
            416 >04-Sep-2003,4994,1,Ireland,IRELAND/9742 
            ... 
            363 >08-Sep-2003,4998,5,New Caledonia,NEWCALEDONIA/14 
            ... 
            442 >09-Oct-2003,5030,6,Malaysia,MALAYSIA/768 
            ... 
            393 >15-Nov-2003,5066,4,Egypt,Egypt/EG-2003917221 
            ... 
            479 >20-Nov-2003,5071,3,Chile,Chile/CL-4145 
            ... 
            410 >23-Nov-2003,5074,1,Russia: Khabarovsk,KHABAROVSK/13 
            --------- 
            
            "Philippines", 33 viruses 
            937 >21-Jul-2003,4950,5,Philippines,PHILIPPINES/621 
            ... 
            932 >19-Aug-2003,4979,5,New Zealand: Dunedin,DUNEDIN/39 
            944 >22-Aug-2003,4982,2,USA: Washington Dc,Washington-DC/AHERN-L 
            ... 
            933 >01-Oct-2003,5022,5,Guam,Guyane/GQ-RSP-03-3715 
            934 >13-Jan-2004,5125,6,Japan: Niigata,NIIGATA/95 
            943 >18-Jun-2004,5282,5,Australia: Victoria,VICTORIA/101 
            --------- 
            
            "Japan" , 33 viruses 
            245 >30-Jan-2006,5873,6,Japan: Niigata,NIIGATA/342 
            ... 
            249 >03-Feb-2006,5876,6,China: Hong Kong,HONG-KONG/218 
            --------- 
            
            "Texas" , 30 viruses 
            329 >15-Nov-2005,5797,2,USA: Texas,Texas/TX-VC5-1434 
            332 >05-Dec-2005,5817,2,USA: Florida,Florida/FL-JVT-17100 
            336 >28-Dec-2005,5840,6,South Korea,Korea/KO-37-06 
            ... 
            330 >16-Feb-2006,5889,1,Norway,NORWAY/566-1 
            ... 
            339 >06-Apr-2006,5940,5,New Zealand: Otago,OTAGO/1 
            ... 
            345 >13-Jun-2006,6008,5,Philippines,PHILIPPINES/1124 
            343 >14-Jun-2006,6009,5,New Zealand: Waikato,WAIKATO/49 
            348 >20-Jun-2006,6015,3,French Guiana,GUYANE/28 
            ... 
            344 >15-Jul-2006,6040,5,Australia: Brisbane,BRISBANE/35 
            ... 
            334 >21-Aug-2006,6077,6,Thailand,THAILAND/559 
            --------- 
            
            "Donghu" , 29 viruses 
            409 >28-Jun-2006,6023,6,China: Jiangxidonghu,JIANGXIDONGHU/1435 
            ... 
            410 >21-Aug-2006,6077,2,USA: Maryland,Maryland/MD-V186917 
            400 >20-Nov-2006,6167,6,South Korea: Incheon,INCHEON/682 
            420 >24-Nov-2006,6171,2,Canada,Canada/CN-RV32-07 
            ... 
            395 >11-Dec-2006,6188,3,French Guiana,GYEONGGI/743
            I'm interested in expert panflu damage estimates
            my current links: http://bit.ly/hFI7H ILI-charts: http://bit.ly/CcRgT

            Comment


            • #21
              Re: Science paper: The Global Circulation of Seasonal Influenza A (H3N2) Viruses

              reassortment often decides which genes survive, which dominate.
              What I meant is, that full viruses may usually die out in America,Europe
              at the end of the season.
              But they may occasionally acquire new genes/segments there which then
              are transported back into birds or into the SE-Asian network
              and thus contribute to the virus-evolution.

              So, I think we should examine all reassortments, -as the key-events
              of flu-evolution-, where they likely occurred
              and whether descendents (of some segment) are still alive.



              That reminds me to the Nanchang quail, the only example
              we found for a bird with human virus. If some bird species
              in SE-Asia could harbour a human viruses that might explain
              their role in the emergence of new strains
              I'm interested in expert panflu damage estimates
              my current links: http://bit.ly/hFI7H ILI-charts: http://bit.ly/CcRgT

              Comment

              Working...
              X