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  • Bruce
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    Originally posted by LMonty

    I would like to draw attention to the comment about length of time of waering the mask.

    The outside of the mask may be contaminated with virus that has not been killed, and the wearer could contaminate him/her hands when removing the mask. Immediately place mask in a disposable bag and wash hands, before touching anything else.

    good practice- put one on, and go mow your lawn in the hot summer sun. It's a good way to get an idea of what working in them can be like, and gives you a feel for it is to wear them. I think masks are an important part of our preps, but I am concerned that people will put them in a drawer and not practice using them, or become familiar with fit checking or safe removal. I know they are expensive, but I hope that everyone will take at least one mask and use it as a practice mask to get comfortable with. Not being familiar with them or using poor technique might end up creating a false sense of security that could be disasterous.
    I’m just home, raided the fridge for a well earned beer.

    I must be getting old, I wore a blower, full face for 2 hours, had a headache that would not let me shake my head to get the sweat beads of my nose and finally had to give up, they were making me crazy and the humidity was such that that there was no fresh sea breeze, just murk filtered air. 2 hours is way past occupational heath regulation in full suite, I just had a hour more but taking a break is not always a option, especially as I had counted on finishing the job, and only had one mask etc with me, lesson learned take a headache pill before suiting up. Just too hot and 2 hard of a job, not even a ventilated suit would have helped without a cooling / drying unit for the intake air in this humidity as there still would have been that sweat bead taking all attention of the job at hand.

    This post addresses LMonty’s post, but in a situation where one can walk out of the area and be in the clear after removing PPE in an approved fashion. In situation like a pandemic wearing a disposable mask doing heavy work breathing gets too hot and difficult after a few minutes not hours in the above weather, the mask is wet from sweat in 10 minutes and you move it with your hand to get the itch away, it’s a reflex, and at the same time you have lost protection.

    But the thing is, do you have to get into a situation where you need a mask; you definitely might, but should avoid them. There should be more talk here on how to avoid getting into a situation where you need a mask.

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  • Snowy Owl
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    Thank you LMonty for this reminder that must not be forgot.

    I would like to thank Robert, he has diligently managed to get the hyperlinks fixed.

    Effectively some studies shows that iodine has some antimicrobian effects.

    The manufacturer should give some lab references though.

    I will reopen the thread and move it to its appropriate place.

    I will leave the Mods and Members judge this new N95 on its merit.

    Snowy Owl
    Last edited by Snowy Owl; July 25, 2006, 03:12 PM.

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  • sharon sanders
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    LMonty - Thank you for the information.

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  • LMonty
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    Snowy, I hop eyou will not be offended if I open the thread just long enough to add a comment I feel strongly should be included.

    I would like to draw attention to the comment about length of time of waering the mask.

    In my professional opinion, and in the absence of info to the contray, I want to state that disposable masks are made to wear once and then throw away. Wearing them for longer than a few hours (or less, depending on acticity, humditiy and other enviomental and wearer activity variables) is not recommended and may in fact be dangerous.

    The outside of the mask may be contaminated with virus that has not been killed, and the wearer could contaminate him/her hands when removing the mask. Immediately place mask in a disposable bag and wash hands, before touching anything else.

    I would need to see testing results that show how long the antimicrobial activity was effective. Masks become wet when you breathe thru them, the water vapor in exhaled air can soak thru and reduce filtering quality and make it downright hard to breathe thru. Increased activity and ambient moisture in the air can affect how long this takes to happen, Ive had it happen in as little as 20 to 30 minutes, when I was busy and the humidity was high. When that occurs a mask may not be able to filter out the virus as effectively as it is rated.

    good practice- put one on, and go mow your lawn in the hot summer sun. It's a good way to get an idea of what working in them can be like, and gives you a feel for it is to wear them. I think masks are an important part of our preps, but I am concerned that people will put them in a drawer and not practice using them, or become familiar with fit checking or safe removal. I know they are expensive, but I hope that everyone will take at least one mask and use it as a practice mask to get comfortable with. Not being familiar with them or using poor technique might end up creating a false sense of security that could be disasterous.

    Please note that I m not singling out the mask that robert mentioned- my comments apply to all masks by all manufacturers. Please test your preps.

    Thanks for listening.

    Now back to your regularly scheduled closed thread!

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  • Snowy Owl
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    Please all, take note that the hyperlink in the commercial website concerning the anti-microbian activity do not work the three of them in post No 8

    I will therefore close this thread until firther informations are available.

    Thank you

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  • Snowy Owl
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    Robert,

    FDA and other agencies have approved VIOXX for example, wich has we found out later was not done with state of art altough approved.

    Can you provide references for this masks that you are promoting with datas (Lab datas) on its anti-microbian properties please,

    Thank you

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  • robert
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    For it to have World Certifications, I believe that research has been done.

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  • Snowy Owl
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    Research must be done on pure iodine crystals properties as a anti-microbian.

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  • Snowy Owl
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    <table id="table17" border="0" cellspacing="0" width="96&#37;"><tbody><tr> <td> What is Triosyn resin?
    Triosyn&#174; resin is a unique iodine preparation that harnesses the germicidal power of iodine. At the same time, Triosyn&#174; resin is designed to precisely control the delivery and dosage
    </td> </tr> <tr> <td>
    </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> How does Triosyn work?
    Triosyn&#174; resin is produced by thermally fusing pure iodine crystals under high pressure with a specialized polymer. During this process, a stable electrochemical bond is formed between the iodine and the polymer
    </td> </tr> <tr> <td>
    </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> How is Triosyn resin incorporated into products?
    Triosyn&#174; resin is incorporated into materials and products during proprietary manufacturing processes. The process, unique for each product</td> </tr> <tr> <td>
    </td></tr></tbody></table>

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  • Snowy Owl
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    World Certifications
    For Triosyn T-Series Respirator masks
    Triosyn T-3000™ Respirator, U.S. NIOSH TC-84A-4109
    In the United States, the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH) certifies respiratory protective devices and establishes testing requirements for particulate filters. The T-3000™ is a flatfold filtering facepiece respirator that includes a Triosyn layer for built-in antimicrobial product protection and a carbon layer for relief from nuisance organic vapors. NIOSH has approved the Triosyn T-3000™ Respirator for protection at a P95 particulate efficiency level.



    Triosyn T-5000™ Respirator, U.S. NIOSH TC-84A-4110
    In the United States, the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH) certifies respiratory protective devices and establishes testing requirements for particulate filters. The T-5000™ is a cup-style respirator that includes a Triosyn layer for built-in antimicrobial product protection and a carbon layer for relief from nuisance organic vapors. NIOSH has approved the Triosyn T-5000™ Respirator for protection at a P95 particulate efficiency level.



    Triosyn T-5000V™ Respirator, U.S. NIOSH TC-84A-4234
    In the United States, the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH) certifies respiratory protective devices and establishes testing requirements for particulate filters. The T-5000V™ is a cup-style respirator with an exhalation valve that includes a Triosyn layer for built-in antimicrobial product protection and a carbon layer for relief from nuisance organic vapors. NIOSH has approved the Triosyn T-5000V™ Respirator for protection at a P95 particulate efficiency level.


    Triosyn T-3000™ and T-5000™ Respirators, European CE Marking Certificate No. 1237
    In Europe, the Triosyn T-3000™ and Respirators T-5000™ Respirators have received a CE product marking certification. Tested in accordance with EN-149:2001, these respirators are CE certified to offer FFP2 protection level against solid and liquid particles. Within the European Union and the European Economic Area, the CE marking demonstrates compliance with the Personal Protective Equipment Directive and indicates that the manufacturer has satisfied all assessment procedures specified by law for its product.



    http: //www.viraldefender.com/world_cert.htm


    More research on its anti-viral properties would be appreciated.

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  • robert
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    Hyperlink?

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  • Snowy Owl
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    Please provide a hyperlink,

    thank you

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  • robert
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    Yes it is Niosh and CE and Class 1 medical.

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  • Snowy Owl
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    Robert, do you know if these masks are NIOSH approved.

    Uses of masks amidst the pandemic storm must be reliable, it can kill you, if not wear properly or if its quality is just PR.

    Is it NIOSH approved ??

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  • Sally Furniss
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    Link showing that the mask was tested using h5N1 virus please.

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