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  • #16
    Re: What FluTrackers Are Personally Doing About H7N9

    Chocolate is good - isn't it supposed to be good for ... Diarrhea?.? On that subject The oral rehydration solution (basic one) in this post by Sally http://www.flutrackers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11957 should be kept to hand. Roughly 3teaspoons sugar, one teaspoon salt added to one litre of water. (variations provided in the post) it is well worth reading the whole post so you can make up your own mind about proportions. Thanks Sally!
    “The only security we have is our ability to adapt."

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    • #17
      Re: What FluTrackers Are Personally Doing About H7N9

      You all are too funny! I guess we have to put some humor in...To Alaska Denise, good luck on whatever is coming your way... I know how you feel and it is not good! Lucky we are actually off the San Andreas fault now, but anything can happen. BTW we wash our hands all the time!

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      • #18
        Re: What FluTrackers Are Personally Doing About H7N9

        Originally posted by sharon sanders View Post
        I am a chocolate addict. All of the chocolate in this house is gone!


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        I love that scene. "Let 'er roll!" Those are the kind of candies I could not stock up on. 73% cacao content bricks are safe, though. I didn't know about the side benefit Kiwibird brought up, , but a little is a more relaxing form of caffeine than coffee, and it's easier to manage if boiling water is a problem.

        Seriously, I haven't done any preps for this specific strain of flu. I made some health changes thanks to things I learned here since 2009 that I try to keep up with. Getting your immune system and environment as optimized as possible is a slow process. I did get my vitamin D levels tested to make sure I was in range last year.

        Like Shannon, I keep some remedies handy and I should be prepped in a general sense for disasters since I live in a seismically active area. I have to admit I need to do more on that front.

        When I think about disasters, I usually reflect on my relationships with nearby neighbors. Those are the people you may depend on and share skills and resources with.
        “‘i love myself.’ the quietest. simplest. most powerful. revolution ever.” ---- nayyirah waheed
        Avatar: Franz Marc, Liegender Hund im Schnee 1911 (My posts are not intended as advice or professional assessments of any kind.)

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        • #19
          Re: Is H7N9 Spreading from Human to Human in China?

          I think everyone should activate their personal disease preparedness plan as the US CDC has issued a question and answer paper here that says to expect H7N9 in the United States probably via a traveler from China.

          There is no proof that H7N9 is human-to-human but 3 clusters have been confirmed. There may be some limited human-to-human spread. We do not know.

          What we do know is that China has a massive environmental contagion that infects people with H7N9. This is a threat to global health.

          So this is what I am doing:

          1) I am telling my family and friends about the situation.

          2) I have added some "preps" to my food. In Florida we are supposed to have 5 days of food and water for hurricane season so I am going to do that anyway. In 2004 I was without power for 3 separate weeks so I know about that experience.

          3) I already purchased a 90 day supply of my maintenance drug a couple of weeks ago.

          4) Since prevention is the only weapon we have against an H7N9 infection I am going to see what else I need regarding vitamins, masks, gloves, etc.

          5) Since I live in one of the top tourists destinations in the world, I have started to enforce a house policy that every time someone walks inside they immediately wash their hands.

          6) I am going to start wiping down handles, door knobs, remotes, etc. once a day.

          7) I am finding some local people willing to be in a flu buddy group with me. So far I have 1 health care professional and I also have 2 seniors who will need extra help in a health care emergency.

          8) I am going to contact the local schools in my area and talk to the school nurse or principle about H7N9.

          9) I am going to use 3 items in my outreach:

          Watch: Level 1, Practice Usual Precautions
          Avian Flu (H7N9) in China



          Interim Guidance on the Use of Antiviral Agents for Treatment of Human Infections with Avian Influenza A (H7N9)


          H7N9 Flu and You

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          • #20
            Re: What FluTrackers Are Personally Doing About H7N9

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            In my case I focus on the preparation in the area where I work. It is a non-profit organization that helps homeless people. I'm pushing for the general emergency plan rejoingnent and adequately cover this category of citizens. I did it again last Friday and it seems that there is the opening on the side of public safety for the City of Quebec. Within the organization I Reforce hygiene measures. I educates the staff, volunteers and users. After Sharon's message this morning I gave the example and I toured the surfaces of the reception room. I reserve household products, gloves, windshield while paper and handkerchiefs. We have in stock what is germicidal and masks. I also think the material sensibilistation.

            At home, I continue my preparations with targeted purchases (gloves, handkerchiefs, etc..). I what to take medication every day for two months. I'll do my inventory for what medication (syrup, Tylenol, etc..) For the symptoms of flu or cold. Regarding the food I already have it in reserve.

            I will continue my activities Fitness and gardening with even greater motivation.

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            En ce qui me concerne je mets l'accent sur la pr&#233;paration dans le milieu o&#249; je travaille. Il s'agit d'un organisme sans but lucratif qui vient en aide aux personnes sans-abris. Je fais pression pour que les plans d'urgence en g&#233;n&#233;ral rejoingnent et couvrent ad&#233;quatement cette cat&#233;gorie de citoyens. Je l'ai fait encore vendredi dernier et il semblerait qu'il y ait de l'ouverture du c&#244;t&#233; de la s&#233;curit&#233; civile &#224; la Ville de Qu&#233;bec. Au sein de l'organisme je reforce les mesures d'hygi&#232;ne. Je sensibilise le personnel, les b&#233;n&#233;voles et les usagers. Apr&#232;s le message de Sharon de ce matin j'ai donn&#233; l'exemple et j'ai fait le tour des surfaces de la salle d'accueil. Je fais des r&#233;serves de produits m&#233;nagers, de gants, de papier essui-tout et de mouchoirs. Nous avons dej&#224; en stock ce qu'il faut de germicide et de masques. Je pense aussi au mat&#233;riel de sensibilistation.

            &#192; la maison, je poursuis mes pr&#233;paratifs avec des achats cibl&#233;s (gants, mouchoirs, etc.). J'ai ce qu'il faut en m&#233;dication &#224; prendre tous les jours pour deux mois. Je vais faire mon inventaire pour ce qui est des m&#233;dicaments (sirop, tylenol, etc.) pour les sympt&#244;mes de la grippe ou du rhume. Pour ce qui est de la nourriture j'ai d&#233;j&#224; ce qu'il faut en r&#233;serve.

            Je vais poursuivre mes activit&#233;s de remise en forme et de jardinage avec une motivation encore plus grande.

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            • #21
              Re: What FluTrackers Are Personally Doing About H7N9

              Unfortunately here in Italy there is little an individual can do for prepping purposes, as the lack of cash is overwhelming an increasing amount of people.

              Recent statistics demostrated that at least 1 in 4 elderly people received a monthly retirement allowance of less than 1,000 euros (often less, around 500-to-700 euros).

              In addition, a 12% rate of unemployment is decimating personal and families incomes.

              The new cabinet will be formed in days and the main target is to cut further public health expenditures and infrastructures maintainance.

              For my part I can only do things as I used to do in the same circumstances in the past:

              -- replenish my stock of surgical masks;

              -- purchase some additional boxes of zanamivir;

              -- collect and stock chronic conditions drugs;

              -- gloves, detergents for pavement, surfaces and toilets.

              -- other drugs for fever, nausea and vomiting as needed.

              These activities may help to cope with distressing situations but - when in the midst of a crisis - a dose of luck is also useful.

              In overcrowded places like cities it was, it is and it will be difficult to avoid large epidemics consequences.

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              • #22
                Re: What FluTrackers Are Personally Doing About H7N9

                I have already shared and keep updated family, friends and those I see at commitee meetings as well as my book club. I too have contacted my doctor and we shared information about both traditional and nontraditional methods of treating the disease. I was happy to learn he was open to both pathways of disease treatment if traditional resources become limited.

                The herbs I ordered should arrive today so, I will start the tincturing process during the upcoming week. They should all be stored and ready to use in at most three weeks time. The herbs I am not tincturing will be stored in a dark, dry and cool place to ensure their potency.

                The chocolate is actually a fine idea. As the war survivor reported anything that reminds us we are human is supremely valuable. So books, toiletries and especially dental floss, makes me feel human. I know, lol, too much information. Therefore, I have added or plan to add those to my stores.

                Finally, I am still doing research re. nontraditional methods of treatment of the flu. Must admit that coconut oil is starting to look intriguing.
                Please do not ask me for medical advice, I am not a medical doctor.

                Avatar is a painting by Alan Pollack, titled, "Plague". I'm sure it was an accident that the plague girl happened to look almost like my twin.
                Thank you,
                Shannon Bennett

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                • #23
                  Re: What FluTrackers Are Personally Doing About H7N9

                  Over the past few days, I've begun to do an inventory of our preps and have identified several areas we need to update and refresh.

                  We have a second, small house on our land and my husband's parents have recently moved into it. They're in their 70's but fortunately in pretty good health. However, they do use some maintenance medications so I'm encouraging them to get 90 day supplies when possible, or otherwise stocking up on what they need. Fortunately, my mother-in-law is a retired nurse and so she understands the importance of this.

                  I live in Tennessee and, like most states, it has a pandemic plan that includes quarantining an entire county when positive cases are confirmed. I live in a very rural area in one of the smallest and poorest counties in the state. We have very limited medical facilities - 1 part time doctor and a county health department which focuses on vaccinations and pre-natal care. We also have one very small nursing home, which is the officially designated medical facility for the county. That means that the nearest medical care is about 30 miles away and across county lines. So my prep plan has to include supplies and equipment so that we can deal with many potential medical situations on our own. Now that my in-laws are with us, that means I need to increase the quantities of most of those supplies. So I'm working on ordering some additional items.

                  The other issue that I'm working on is my husband's work kit. Under the pandemic plan, his job is considered critical. That means that it's very likely that he will have to stay at his workplace, which unfortunately is in another county. His workplace will provide a place to sleep, and all the MRE's he can eat ( ), but that's about it. So we came up with the idea of his work kit - something that he can keep at work that is stocked with things to make him more comfortable and provide maximum PPE and hygiene. It's been about a year since we rotated the contents so I had him bring it home. We'll be working on refreshing and restocking that over the next couple of weeks.

                  And, of course, it's garden time!



                  "What information consumes is rather obvious: it consumes the attention of its recipients. Hence a wealth of information creates a poverty of attention, and a need to allocate that attention efficiently among the overabundance of information sources that might consume it." - Herbert Simon

                  "The benefits of education and of useful knowledge, generally diffused through a community, are essential to the preservation of a free government." - Sam Houston

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                  • #24
                    Re: What FluTrackers Are Personally Doing About H7N9

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                    For seven months I reserve supplies and food using coupons when these products are sold. Some products have cost me nothing. Even with a small budget, it is possible to reserve a little at a time without it costing too much. But we must be disciplined. An element that is very important in the preparation is to do everything possible to get rid of his debts. I finished very soon.

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                    Depuis 7 mois je fais des r&#233;serves de fournitures et de nourriture en utilisant des coupons-rabais lorsque ces produits sont en vente. Certains produits ne m'ont rien co&#251;t&#233;. M&#234;me avec un petit budget, il est possible de faire des r&#233;serves un peu &#224; la fois sans que cela ne co&#251;te trop cher. Mais il faut &#234;tre disciplin&#233;. Un &#233;l&#233;ment qui est tr&#232;s important dans la pr&#233;paration c'est de faire le maximum pour se d&#233;barrasser de ses dettes. Je termine tr&#232;s bient&#244;t.

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                    • #25
                      Re: What FluTrackers Are Personally Doing About H7N9

                      Perhaps it is Worth to note that people with chronic conditions or history for acute hearth, kidney and liver diseases should seek medical advice and guidance as well as consider the need for screening examinations before health care system may be hit by an exceeding influx of patients forcing to reduce or close some services.

                      For this reason, also consider:

                      -- Whole blood tests, liver, kidney and myocardial markers and enzymes;

                      -- EKG, ultrasonography for heart, full abdomen and pelvis for people with liver, kidney, bladder, prostate illnesses;

                      -- mammograms, and other women genitourinary illnesses;

                      -- oncologic follow-ups;

                      -- chronic conditions drugs regimen adjustements;

                      -- food prescription for diabetes and hyperlipidemia;

                      -- any other medical advice for people with chronicities or recently had undergone surgical procedures; anti-infective intake advices for people with HIV/AIDS, Hep B&C, other infectious diseases.

                      (...)

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                      • #26
                        Re: What FluTrackers Are Personally Doing About H7N9

                        Ok - I am going to prepare for the spread of H7N9 beyond China's borders. The qualification of the authors of this paper are excellent. They do not say that H7N9 is being transmitted human-to-human.

                        Chin Sci Bull. Epidemiological and risk analysis of the H7N9 subtype influenza outbreak in China at its early stage


                        Last week the CDC said that they expected some H7N9 cases to come to the US via travelers from China.

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                        • #27
                          Re: What FluTrackers Are Personally Doing About H7N9

                          The weather here refuses to settle down so I cannot predict when our last frost will be. So, this week we will be moving our tomato, pepper, eggplant and myriad other vegetable starts into larger pots. The tiny greenhouse is going to be over-flowing!

                          I checked out the price of dried beans and was horrified at how much a 25lb. bag cost. I may try growing a row or two this year if I can find the space. That would give me an excuse for growing some new and hopefully exceptional varieties.

                          Lastly, my husband and I were discussing raising chickens again. We moved a few years ago from a place that allowed chickens to one where they were forbidden. Now, with changes in the local laws we have the opportunity to raise them again. No roosters within the city limits but I didn't want any to begin with. Oh my, the wonderful taste of fresh eggs is something I long to have again. Besides I love watching "the girls" busy going about their bug-chasing, weed-eating and hilarious attempts at flying lives.
                          Please do not ask me for medical advice, I am not a medical doctor.

                          Avatar is a painting by Alan Pollack, titled, "Plague". I'm sure it was an accident that the plague girl happened to look almost like my twin.
                          Thank you,
                          Shannon Bennett

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                          • #28
                            Re: What FluTrackers Are Personally Doing About H7N9

                            Originally posted by sharon sanders View Post
                            Ok - I am going to prepare for the spread of H7N9 beyond China's borders.
                            So what you are saying is that the Taiwan case is triggering you to strengthen your preps?

                            Im waiting on stronger H2H signals inside China (if we hear about them you know its orders of magnitude greater) or a nontraveler case outside of China.

                            First thing then is to replenish my PPE supplies and plant more storage crops.
                            Nika

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                            • #29
                              Re: What FluTrackers Are Personally Doing About H7N9

                              Originally posted by Nika View Post
                              So what you are saying is that the Taiwan case is triggering you to strengthen your preps?

                              Im waiting on stronger H2H signals inside China (if we hear about them you know its orders of magnitude greater) or a nontraveler case outside of China.

                              First thing then is to replenish my PPE supplies and plant more storage crops.

                              Not the Taiwan case. The CDC said last week that they expect a case from China to arrive in the United States. I am not running out the door to buy preps today. I am looking at what I need to do about flu avoidance i.e. have plenty of hand sanitizer etc..

                              I am going to prepare for a hurricane which is what we are asked to do each year.

                              My situation might be a bit different than most people. I live in the Orlando area which had over 55 million visitors in 2011.

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                              • #30
                                Re: What FluTrackers Are Personally Doing About H7N9

                                zero hits for Tamiflu in this thread ?!

                                where to get some ? Relenza, Inavir,Arbidol ?

                                found DrFox.co.uk

                                add some eye-makeup to my preps ...
                                I'm interested in expert panflu damage estimates
                                my current links: [url]http://bit.ly/hFI7H[/url] ILI-charts: [url]http://bit.ly/CcRgT[/url]

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