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  • secret Chinese pandemic plan ?

    it seems to me that the Chinese were prepared for this situation, but that it was all secret.
    The quarantines, the math. modeling that Zhong frequently refers to, the mobile hospitals
    and medical crews - the whole pandemic plan.
    They may have developed it with the H5N1-threat in 2005.or with the
    SARS-experience in 2003 or H1N1 in 2009 or H7N9 in 2013 .
    And it may have been the military which played the major role in this,
    that would explain the secrecy.
    They knew that it would likely work or might well work when they implemented
    the quarantine on Jan23. Despite all the Western studies and modelings by
    Ferguson, Longini etc.
    And they knew exactly what to do, who was responsible for what task, how and when
    to close the roads, airports, where to isolate the suspected people and such.

    Now, they are still keeping all this secret, but questions will be asked ...
    The world wants to learn from the Chinese experience, there will be
    (more ) studies about the outbreak and these can't so well keep
    the existing Chinese pandemic plans secret since they are important
    for the overall conclusions and recommendations.
    I'm interested in expert panflu damage estimates
    my current links: http://bit.ly/hFI7H ILI-charts: http://bit.ly/CcRgT

  • #2
    They have been planning and drilling for many years for a flu pandemic. Like many governments they probably have a comprehensive pandemic plan. Probably filed next to the rebellion plan.

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    • #3
      Filed next to the rebellion plan or no. Maybe we could learn something that would be applicable to the plans of other nations. What worked and didn't work for them. Quarantining ships was used last century, we have enough knowledge to be able to do things differently now

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      • #4
        they should publish it now , so other countries like Iran can act accordingly. It doesn't help China, if it starts elsewhere
        and then maybe comes back to China
        I'm interested in expert panflu damage estimates
        my current links: http://bit.ly/hFI7H ILI-charts: http://bit.ly/CcRgT

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        • #5
          Merci,

          dans un tel plan, il y a obligatoirement, un point: la gestion des cadavres humains et animaux. Vu l'opérateur en oeuvre: l'armée, ces nombres de mort sont connus et n'ont jamais été communiqués...

          La question devient dans ces nombres, combien sont du à la cause évoquée ?

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          • #6
            they can handle 40000 in the hospitals, 10000 severe cases.
            Handling some hundred dead bodies should be
            no big problem
            I'm interested in expert panflu damage estimates
            my current links: http://bit.ly/hFI7H ILI-charts: http://bit.ly/CcRgT

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            • #7
              Dans ce gene de lieux de vie , donc les lieux de vie des personnes en quarantaine, donc combien de millions de personnes, il meurt habituellement combien de personnes par jour ?
              Pourquoi est-ce que l'incinération systématique a été prie ?

              Et, pourquoi les chiffres du nombre de ces incinérations n'est pas accessible , au moins au niveau O.M.S ?

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              • #8
                Quand pour la gestion d'Ebola, l'O.M.S impose une modification des pratiques funéraires, il se passe ?
                Quelles sont les pratiques funéraires habituelles en Chine ?
                Si, une modification, du type incinération obligatoire, peut se faire en Chine , pourquoi cela ne se fait pas en Afrique ?
                C'est ce qui va se produire , au niveau des membres de l'armée américaine , par exemple ?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by sharon sanders View Post
                  They have been planning and drilling for many years for a flu pandemic. Like many governments they probably have a comprehensive pandemic plan. Probably filed next to the rebellion plan.
                  Based on the lack of previsions for issues such as harvest management and food supply maintenance, it appears the planning was for only a very short term problem.
                  The Chinese government is now trying to adjust their controls to take that into account, but that still leaves the larger challenge of restarting the industrial base at a time that distribution is crippled.
                  How does the Chinese worker buy food if the factory is shut and he does not get paid?

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                  • #10
                    China's not very secret pandemic planning pdf

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                    • #11
                      celui là, je le connais, mais il est le seul ?

                      le normal concernant les rites funéraires:
                      https://chine.in/guide/mort-funerail...elle_3661.html

                      http://blog-pompes-funebres.fr/rites...-en-chine.html

                      Si l'on parlait de la qualification des militaires en déplacement :

                      https://www.ouest-france.fr/sante/vi...-sahel-6745707
                      ou de cela
                      https://fr.sputniknews.com/internati...cun-pays-mais/

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                      • #12
                        thanks JJackson .
                        But Draft version, no date. Basically MoH is responsible
                        (ministry of health = health-department)
                        Mentions flu-pandemics (but not 2009), no mention of SARS or coronavirus.
                        China as developing country.
                        Could be ~20 years old ?!

                        I'm interested in expert panflu damage estimates
                        my current links: http://bit.ly/hFI7H ILI-charts: http://bit.ly/CcRgT

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                        • #13
                          Depuis le 5 février, il n'est rien produit
                          https://www.oie.int/fileadmin/Home/e...e_COVID-19.pdf

                          coté Douane, et DGCCRF, ils sont aussi en quarantaine ?
                          Deux pangolins, animal soupçonné d'être à l'origine du Coronavirus, retrouvés morts dans une valise en Espagne

                          https://www.lindependant.fr/2020/02/...ne,8744689.php

                          Trafic d’animaux : près de 900 000 pangolins vendus illégalement en Asie du Sud-Est

                          https://www.sudouest.fr/2020/02/20/t...18943-6095.php

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