Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Turkish thread

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • #16
    Re: Turkish thread

    Oric, Zkurmus, thx for the updates.

    What will be valuable to the world and this group is when you see a change in the way the Turkish people in Istanbul (and via your countryside contacts) respond when they are again exposed to BF.

    Again, you may be on the leading edge.

    What I would like to learn about is the "quality of fear".

    When BF appears in humans, will you then be seeing irrational behavior [such as mobs breaking into stores, or stopping trucks on the road, or home invasions--burglary/theft].

    And, I would like to learn about the good things that people do, and the change in prices, if you see any.

    In the past pandemics, we have documented information about this type of behavior in England, and in the USA. You will be able to "see" what's happening in Turkey.

    Finally, are people in Turkey purchasing and eating chicken/turkey now??

    Comment


    • #17
      Re: Turkish thread

      Originally posted by GaudiaRay
      Oric, Zkurmus, thx for the updates.

      What will be valuable to the world and this group is when you see a change in the way the Turkish people in Istanbul (and via your countryside contacts) respond when they are again exposed to BF.

      Again, you may be on the leading edge.

      What I would like to learn about is the "quality of fear".

      When BF appears in humans, will you then be seeing irrational behavior [such as mobs breaking into stores, or stopping trucks on the road, or home invasions--burglary/theft].

      And, I would like to learn about the good things that people do, and the change in prices, if you see any.

      In the past pandemics, we have documented information about this type of behavior in England, and in the USA. You will be able to "see" what's happening in Turkey.

      Finally, are people in Turkey purchasing and eating chicken/turkey now??
      I haven't seen any vandalism/stealing etc from mobs in Turkey. Ever. It happened in the late 50s for a week or so - a religious thing, diracted toward Jews and Armenian Christians' stores were ransacked.. But nothing since. I'd hate to make a gross generalisation, but most Turks are very respectful of their neighborhoods, and their neighbors' properties. Its like a common sensical neighborhood watch. Now, if that were to happen in a crisis situation, things might change. We did see some stores being emptied etc during the 1999 earthquake, but the burglers were quickly beaten (sometimes seriously injured) and brought to the police by citizens. I'd think of that as a total crisis situation, and still, people were watching out for each others' property. My sistern-in-law's parents lived in Adapazari, their pharmacy and home ended up being 3-4 stories buried under rubble (they survived, miraculously) and they tell us that their next door neighbors stood watch over the building for weeks until my brother brough excavators to dig up whatever was left of their belongings. They did recover some jewellery as well as their safe in the pharmacy.

      As to chicken issues, even I bought chicken again last week, we continue to buy eggs, and things seem to be picking up a bit. Less fear.

      Comment


      • #18
        some insight as to the recent history of bf in turkey...

        After doing a quick search on "Bird Flu" in the Kenthaber.com site, I came across many many references to "unexplained bird/poultry deaths" as well as "suspicions of BF" in articles. So we knew it was coming...

        Fear of BF in chicken arriving from Bursa to Agri's Patnos aream thousands of chickens dead, officials will not rule out BF, but say they might have died during their trip


        Chicken deaths will not stop - oct 18, 05, in Agri, Patnos


        Bird flu in Agri? Chicken deaths in Aralik region put live poultry market to a halt. Merchants say their chickens are healthy. - dec 28, 05

        Comment


        • #19
          Re: Turkish thread

          Nothing much on the news. We wait for the cranes and storks to come back

          Comment


          • #20
            Turkey: New suspected cases

            3 Children in Manisa have been hospitalized with BF suspicion at Celal Bayar University Hospital.

            MAN?SA'DA 3 ?OCUKTA KU? GR?B? ??PHES?
            Manisa'da 3 ?ocuk ku? gribi ??phesi ile Celal Bayar ?niversitesi T?p Fak?ltesi Hastanesine yat?r?ld?.
            23.02.2006 - 21:36:00
            Last edited by Walter; February 23, 2006, 09:05 PM.

            Comment


            • #21
              BF suspicion in 3 children in Manisa

              summary (from haberturk.com)
              3 children have been hospitalized at Celal Bayar University hospital with BF suspicion.

              3 children, Z.E (10), D.A. (6) and H.A. (9), who have had close contact with poultry in Manisa's Golmarmara region's Kayaalti village, got ill, so the officials doing the disinfection in the village took them to the hospital. The doctors say they are in good condition and samples have been sent to be tested.

              Manisa'da 3 ?ocukta kuş gribi şuphesi
              Manisa'da 3 ?ocuk kuş gribi ş?phesi ile Celal Bayar ?niversitesi (CB?) Tıp Fak?ltesi Hastanesine yatırıldı.

              Manisa'nın G?lmarmara il?esine bağlı Kayaaltı K?y?'nde k?mes
              hayvanları ile yakın temasta bulunan Z.E (10), D.A (6) ve H.A (9)
              rahatsızlanınca k?yde dezenfekte ?alışmalarını y?r?ten yetkililer
              tarafından kuş gribi ş?phesi ile CB? Tıp Fak?ltesi Hastanesi'ne
              kaldırıldı.

              Tıp Fak?ltesi Hastanesi Başhekim Yardımcısı Prof. Dr. Aydın
              İşisağ, ?ocukların sağlık durumlarının iyi olduğunu ve alınan kan
              ?rneklerinin Ankara'ya g?nderildiğini belirtti.

              Manisa İl Sağlık M?d?r? Ziya Tay ise ''t?m ?nlemler alındı. K?y?n
              giriş ve ?ıkışları kontrol altına alındı. K?ye giren ve ?ıkan t?m
              ara?lar dezenfekte ediliyor. ?alışmalar S?rekli devam edecek. Ayrıca
              G?lmarmara ve ?evresinde devam eden tavuk itlaf ?alışmaları hafta
              sonuna kadar bitirilecek. Konu ile ilgili t?m birimler koordineli bir
              şekilde ?alışmalarını s?rd?r?yor'' dedi.

              Haber Girişi: 23.02.2006 - 21:19

              Comment


              • #22
                Re: BF suspicion in 3 children in Manisa

                It's all still bubbling then, thanks Oric and zkurmus (my eye was distracted elsewhere).

                Comment


                • #23
                  3 children in hospital with BF suspicion (Turkey)

                  released last night, from anatolian agency:

                  3 Children in Manisa have been hospitalized at Celal Bayar University
                  Hospital with BF suspicion.

                  MANİSA'DA 3 ?OCUKTA KUŞ GRİBİ Ş?PHESİ
                  MANİSA - Manisa'da 3 ?ocuk kuş gribi ş?phesi ile Celal Bayar ?niversitesi Tıp Fak?ltesi Hastanesine yatırıldı.
                  23 Şubat 2006 Perşembe -- 21:36:00

                  from haberturk.com
                  3 Children in Manisa with BF suspicion
                  3 Children in Manisa have been hospitalized at Celal Bayar University with BF suspicion.

                  In Manisa's Golmarmara region's Kayaalti village, Z.E (10), D.A (6) and H.A (9), who havehad close contact with poultry, were taken to the hospital by the officials who were disinfecting the village when they fell ill.

                  Pr. Dr. Ayrin Isisag said that the childrens' health were in good condition and samples were sent to be tested to Ankara.

                  Manisa's Municipal Director of Health Ziya Tay said that disinfection had ben ongoing in the village, and all entrances and exits to the village was being controlled and all percautions have been taken. Culling efforts which were already underway will continue as well, he said, to be finished by the end of the week, and that all units were working in coordination.

                  Manisa'da 3 ?ocukta kuş gribi şuphesi
                  Manisa'da 3 ?ocuk kuş gribi ş?phesi ile Celal Bayar ?niversitesi (CB?) Tıp Fak?ltesi Hastanesine yatırıldı.

                  Manisa'nın G?lmarmara il?esine bağlı Kayaaltı K?y?'nde k?mes
                  hayvanları ile yakın temasta bulunan Z.E (10), D.A (6) ve H.A (9)
                  rahatsızlanınca k?yde dezenfekte ?alışmalarını y?r?ten yetkililer
                  tarafından kuş gribi ş?phesi ile CB? Tıp Fak?ltesi Hastanesi'ne
                  kaldırıldı.

                  Tıp Fak?ltesi Hastanesi Başhekim Yardımcısı Prof. Dr. Aydın
                  İşisağ, ?ocukların sağlık durumlarının iyi olduğunu ve alınan kan
                  ?rneklerinin Ankara'ya g?nderildiğini belirtti.

                  Manisa İl Sağlık M?d?r? Ziya Tay ise ''t?m ?nlemler alındı. K?y?n
                  giriş ve ?ıkışları kontrol altına alındı. K?ye giren ve ?ıkan t?m
                  ara?lar dezenfekte ediliyor. ?alışmalar S?rekli devam edecek. Ayrıca
                  G?lmarmara ve ?evresinde devam eden tavuk itlaf ?alışmaları hafta
                  sonuna kadar bitirilecek. Konu ile ilgili t?m birimler koordineli bir
                  şekilde ?alışmalarını s?rd?r?yor'' dedi.

                  Comment


                  • #24
                    Samsun culling to be finished tomorrow, Feb 25th

                    Summary translation from Haberturk.com:
                    44 thousand chickens have been culled in Samsun and nearby areas since the beginning of the outbreak in Jan 5th. 42 points have been identified as being BF + regions, 35 areas with chicken BF + and 7 areas with wild birds bf+. Culling continues in Terme region, but will be finished tomorrow, but the quarantine in 16 areas will continue untill March 11th. 19 areas have been released from quarantine.

                    Samsun'da 44 bin tavuk itlaf edildi
                    Samsun'da Ocak ayından bu yana kuş gribi vakası tespit edilen b?lgelerde 44 bin tavuk itlaf edildi.
                    Tarım İl M?d?rl?ğ?'nden alınan bilgilere g?re, şehir merkezinde 5 Ocak'ta Zeytinlik Mahallesi'nde ilk kuş gribi vakası g?r?lmesinin hemen akabinde başlatılan itlaf ?alışmalarında bug?ne kadar 44 bin tavuğun itlaf edildiği bildirildi. Samsun'da 42 noktada kuş gribi vakasına rastlandığı, bunların 35'ni evcil, 7'sini yabani hayvanların oluşturduğu ?ğrenildi.
                    Terme İl?esi'nde itlaf ?alışmalarının s?rd?ğ?n? belirten Tarım İl M?d?r? Sadullah Kirenci, itlaf ?alışmalarının yarın itibariyle sona ereceğini kaydetti. 16 noktada karantina uygulamasının 11 Mart'ta kadar devam edeceğini ifade eden Kirenci, 19 noktada karantinayı kaldırdıklarını s?zlerine ekle

                    Haber Girişi: 24.02.2006 - 11:56 Arkadaşına G?nder Haberi Yazdır

                    Comment


                    • #25
                      Re: Turkish thread

                      Thanks for keeping us updated, Zkurmus. It's invaluable to continue hearing what you're hearing there in Turkey. Be safe.

                      Comment


                      • #26
                        Re: Turkish thread

                        It is unusually quite on the news on health issues

                        Comment


                        • #27
                          Turkey: 3000 culled poultry

                          New BF cases in Silivri, Istanbul

                          Couple of poultry in Silivri district (West of downtown Istanbul) deaths have been tested positive for H5n1 virus, over 3,000 birds have been culled in the district in the last two days
                          Last edited by Walter; March 3, 2006, 10:42 PM.

                          Comment


                          • #28
                            Re: Turkish thread

                            Though we did hear about the cat in Germany in all the newspapers, as well as WHO update on the number of confirmed BF infected deaths (they're saying 174 infected, 94 deceased) on anatolian agency.com. Nothing about the kids in Manisa. Nothing else. I'm hoping that this is because there are no new cases and the kids in Manisa are -.

                            Comment


                            • #29
                              Re: Turkish thread

                              Today there was a new case of avian flu in poultry in Silivri, Istanbul ... About 3,000 birds have been vulled

                              Comment


                              • #30
                                Turkey: Alanya Sees 30% Fall in Scandinavian Tourists

                                http://www.zaman.com/?bl=hotnews&alt...60303&hn=30450

                                Alanya Sees 30% Fall in Scandinavian Tourists
                                By Cihan News Agency
                                Published: Friday, March 03, 2006
                                zaman.com




                                A 30 percent fall was recorded in the number of Scandinavian tourists visiting top Turkish tourist destination Alanya in the first two months of 2006. Turkish tourism, which has been badly affected by the recent bird flu outbreaks and the protests concerning the Mohammed cartoons, saw a decrease of up to 30 percent in Scandinavian tourists who constitute a considerable percentage of the total tourist arrivals in Turkey.

                                Comment

                                Working...
                                X