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  • #16
    Re: Translation error-H5N1/H1N1 Virus coinfection suspected -promed

    (Referring to above, deleted post)

    Read it carefully. They are not denying a co-infection. They are denying a mutation of H1N1. I don't think that article involves H5 either.
    Last edited by alert; September 1st, 2009, 06:15 PM. Reason: above

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    • #17
      Re: Translation error-H5N1/H1N1 Virus coinfection suspected -promed

      I have to agree, its the editing from ProMed. I've never seen an article edited like that from ProMed. A commentary at the bottom, but not throughout the article.

      The last sentence deals with Avian Flu.

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      • #18
        Re: Translation error-H5N1/H1N1 Virus coinfection suspected -promed

        Originally posted by Commonground View Post
        I have to agree, its the editing from ProMed. I've never seen an article edited like that from ProMed. A commentary at the bottom, but not throughout the article.

        The last sentence deals with Avian Flu.
        I've seen a few. But they usually get tagged as "heavily edited" or "extensively edited". The most recent was the one on anthrax in India where they had to heavily edit out references to the government reports killing people, instead of the disease.

        The link for "extensively edited" is here:

        http://www.promedmail.org/pls/otn/f?...AIL_ID:X,78489

        I am a little disappointed that they posted this one, though.
        Last edited by alert; September 1st, 2009, 06:42 PM. Reason: link

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        • #19
          Re: Egypt's Health Minister denies H5N1 & "Swine Flu" coinfection

          They specifically denied bird flu here.

          "The ministry said that this pilgrim infected with swine flu in addition to the common flu and not bird flu, and his health is good and stable."

          If it was a editing error then why did they specifically deny it in the first article of this thread?

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          • #20
            Re: Egypt's Health Minister denies H5N1 & "Swine Flu" coinfection

            Could someone please send the first article of this thread to promed.

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            • #21
              Re: Egypt's Health Minister denies H5N1 & "Swine Flu" coinfection

              Originally posted by Rwilmer View Post
              They specifically denied bird flu here.

              "The ministry said that this pilgrim infected with swine flu in addition to the common flu and not bird flu, and his health is good and stable."

              If it was a editing error then why did they specifically deny it in the first article of this thread?
              The Promed post was from Aug 30th. The article is from Sept 1st. I suspect that the article is in response to the Promed post.
              "In the beginning of change, the patriot is a scarce man (or woman https://flutrackers.com/forum/core/i...ilies/wink.png), and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for it then costs nothing to be a patriot."- Mark TwainReason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it. -Thomas Paine

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              • #22
                Re: Egypt's Health Minister denies H5N1 & "Swine Flu" coinfection

                Originally posted by Niko View Post
                The Promed post was from Aug 30th. The article is from Sept 1st. I suspect that the article is in response to the Promed post.
                No. The ProMed post is from Today (9/1). The original article was 8/30.

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                • #23
                  Re: Egypt's Health Minister denies H5N1 & "Swine Flu" coinfection

                  Originally posted by Rwilmer View Post
                  "Health" denies mutation of avian flu in pigs, with
                  Tuesday, September 1st, 2009 - 19:55


                  Minister of Health Dr.. Gabali
                  Mona Zia


                  Denied the Ministry of Health through the Council of Ministers report daily to the situation of swine flu, the rumors about a mutation of the swine flu virus to one of the cases infected with avian influenza, upon his arrival at the port of Safaga from Umrah.

                  The ministry said that this pilgrim infected with swine flu in addition to the common flu and not bird flu, and his health is good and stable, and will leave the hospital within two days after the treatment, emphasizing the lack of any situation that the mutation of avian influenza in Egypt and that there is no marriage between him and the bird flu virus .


                  http://translate.google.com/translat...istory_state0=
                  Could someone please send this article to promed.

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                  • #24
                    Re: Egypt's Health Minister denies H5N1 & "Swine Flu" coinfection

                    Originally posted by Rwilmer View Post
                    Could someone please send this article to promed.
                    And whlie you're at it, can someone explain this to Flu Wiki.

                    And also to Crof at the H5N1 blog. He seems to have picked up the ProMed story, but not this thread.
                    Last edited by Sally Furniss; September 1st, 2009, 08:21 PM. Reason: typo

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                    • #25
                      Re: Egypt's Health Minister denies H5N1 & "Swine Flu" coinfection

                      I've seen a lot of stories that translate out to "bird flu in pigs"....can't say I've seen one yet ('ceptin' todays article) that puts it "that bird flu, and pigs"....

                      Probably a translation glitch, but certainly a new one.....

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                      • #26
                        Re: Egypt's Health Minister denies H5N1 & "Swine Flu" coinfection

                        Originally posted by Niko View Post
                        The Promed post was from Aug 30th. The article is from Sept 1st. I suspect that the article is in response to the Promed post.
                        Originally posted by alert View Post
                        No. The ProMed post is from Today (9/1). The original article was 8/30.
                        I am sorry for the confusion. I meant the article in post #1 of this thread is dated Sept 1st. The article posted by Promed is dated August 30th.
                        "In the beginning of change, the patriot is a scarce man (or woman https://flutrackers.com/forum/core/i...ilies/wink.png), and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for it then costs nothing to be a patriot."- Mark TwainReason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it. -Thomas Paine

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                        • #27
                          Re: Egypt's Health Minister denies H5N1 & "Swine Flu" coinfection

                          Egypt: Italian suspected of swine flu and bird flu


                          Rome, 2 Sept. (AKI) - A 35 year-old Italian tourist is one of three people believed to have been infected with A(H1N1) virus, or swine flu, as well as the H5N1 virus, known as avian flu. The patients are recovering in the Egyptian Red Sea resort of Hurghada, said Mohammed Rifai, director general of preventive medicine.

                          Rifai also spoke of a 28-year-old man who tested positive for both viruses, after arriving at the port of Safaga after a pilgrimage to Saudi Arabia.

                          "We are waiting the results of the tests that have already been carried out in some patients suspected of having been infected by the H5N1 and the A(H1N1)," said World Health Organisation spokesman Gregory Hartl in an interview with Adnkronos Salute.

                          "However, at the moment there are no confirmed cases."

                          Hartl, however, did not want to specify the nationality of the suspected cases.

                          Last week in Chile, the A(H1N1) virus was found in turkeys, raising concern that poultry farms elsewhere in the world may also become infected with the pandemic swine flu virus.

                          The United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization interim chief veterinary officer, Juan Lubroth, said that it could theoretically become more dangerous if the A(H1N1) combines with H5N1, commonly known as bird flu, which is far more deadly but harder to pass along among humans.

                          The emergence of new influenza virus strains capable of affecting humans and domestic animals remains a broader, more general concern that is being closely monitored by FAO, the World Organization for Animal Health and the World Health Organization.

                          In addition, the first mass vaccinations against swine flu will be available from November in Italy, the Italian government has announced.

                          The vaccine is expected to be available for those most at risk, an estimated 24 million Italians or 40 percent of the population.

                          According to Italian media reports, the government is planning to release eight million doses from mid-November until mid-December.

                          Another 16 million doses of the vaccine are expected to be available from 31 January 2010.

                          The ministry of health, together with medical officials and regional representatives, will work together with doctors to administer the vaccine free of charge.

                          In the first phase, the vaccine will be offered to health workers and to those most at risk, including residents of nursing homes and pregnant women as well as family doctors.

                          Another round of vaccines will be made available to those aged between two and 65 years of age, suffering from respiratory illnesses by the end of the year.

                          Others aged between two and 27 years will be eligible for another round of vaccines at the end of January.

                          http://www.adnkronos.com/AKI/English...3.0.3724836800

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                          • #28
                            Re: Egypt's Health Minister denies H5N1 & "Swine Flu" coinfection

                            (Update by IOH)

                            According a news report by the ANSA italian press agency, a 22 years old Italian national hospitalized at Hurgada hospital, Egypt, is currently in stable conditions and treated with antiviral drug oseltamivir, after contracting H1N1 2009 influenza virus.

                            The patient was suspected to be infected with avian influenza virus A/H5N1 as well, but a spokesman of the hospital - reached by ANSA - denied this report.

                            Essam Qaoud has confirmed that the patient is stable and has been hospitalized since August 27.

                            (Source: ANSA, http://www.ansa.it/site/notizie/awnp...102377664.html )

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                            • #29
                              Re: Egypt's Health Minister denies H5N1 & "Swine Flu" coinfection

                              Excerpt from another article:

                              ITALIAN ONLY IN EGYPT HIT BY H1N1
                              The Egyptian authorities have denied that there is an Italian tourist in Hurghada hit by a double infection by the virus H1N1 and H5N1. The Italian, 22 years, as subsequently stated, has entered only the influenza A virus, said the doctor, and her condition is stable after being treated with Tamiflu Young said the doctor, was admitted August 27 last year, suffering because of high fever over 38 degrees and leave the hospital when tests carried out for 5 days will give negative results for its part, the hospital director, Hossameddin Hassan Abdou, also denied that a second person, Egyptian who was returning to Egypt after a pilgrimage to Mecca has been hospitalized for a double infection. The same denial from the Italian embassy in Cairo said that, after taking CONTACT with the Italian Consulate in Hurghada, the Italian tourist was hit only by influenza A.

                              http://translate.google.com/translat...istory_state0=

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                              • #30
                                Re: Egypt's Health Minister denies H5N1 & "Swine Flu" coinfection

                                In case of dual infections H1N1 and H5N1, how would the tests perform? Would they both be positive? Or only positive for one of them?
                                "Safety and security don't just happen, they are the result of collective consensus and public investment. We owe our children, the most vulnerable citizens in our society, a life free of violence and fear."
                                -Nelson Mandela

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