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  • Re: Egypt - Human Confirmed/Suspected Bird Flu Cases, Feb 8, 2009+

    <TABLE style="TEXT-ALIGN: left; DIRECTION: ltr" class=contentpaneopen><TBODY><TR><TD class=contentheading width="100&#37;">The girl died of bird flu and the detention of four suspected injury in the Fayoum and Damanhour .. </TD><TD class=buttonheading width="100%" align=right> </TD><TD class=buttonheading width="100%" align=right> </TD><TD class=buttonheading width="100%" align=right> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>




    And the discovery of two things meeting Sunday attended by two of the disease
    The girl died &#171;بسملة Mohamed Rabia&#187; 45 days of the city of Fayoum Alhawwatm after being infected with bird flu, and the girl had been detained for a day Fayoum General Hospital, where he was transferred to a hospital after Fayyoum fevers suspected bird flu, and fever to transfer the management of the hospital directly from the reception Tamiflu drug to the hospital, where she died hours later the girl Fimazalt of the samples being tested to make sure that the cause of death is bird flu or other disease.



    The hospital admitted Fayyoum detained on suspicion of two women got sick, where they were detained &#171;Soha Sayed Ismail&#187; 18 years of the dipper and the city of Fayoum &#171;dignified Ramadan Secretary&#187; 35 years of Oboxa Center Ibcoai, two samples were taken for analysis, where the initial analysis was negative, With a hospital official source confirmed that the cases are still detained pending the receipt of the final analysis of samples from the Ministry of Health.




    In Damanhour hospital diets detained on suspicion of two infected by bird flu, and two: &#171;Amal Mohamed Ezzat&#187; 20 housewife year resident of the village Alhouc Center and the girl child Damanhour &#171;Nada Ali Zein&#187; 5-month resident of the village of Cain to the same place,


    after the emergence of their symptoms are similar to the disease, fever and inflammation of the throat and narrow bone pain, respiratory, blood samples were taken from the injured and sent to central laboratories for testing.



    Whereas factor analysis conducted by the Ministry of Agriculture on samples of the two things the discovery of new bird flu virus bird Btnta Berma meeting Sunday attended by the village.



    And Dr. Ahmed Saeed - Director of the Directorate of Veterinary Medicine meeting Sunday attended - that the initial focus has been discovered within the market wisdom Btnta during the passage of a committee formed to immunize birds in markets and homes, where suspected members of the Committee in the chicken before the sale was to take samples for analysis, a factor of the Ministry of Agriculture, at a time which was to take the necessary precautionary measures has been confirmed by a positive test sample was the formation of a committee of health and veterinary medicine, the environment and the city council security, security Kerdoun been imposed on the market and the relevant bodies to clear the place and the execution of all the birds under the supervision of Dr. Sharif Hammouda - Undersecretary of the Ministry of Health meeting Sunday attended by -- to ensure that no transmission of the virus to humans.

    In the same context, the discovery of the focus of analysis within the market of the village after Berma suspicion in some birds for sale, with the imposition of Kerdoun security on the market and cleared by the health officials, veterinary medicine and the environment has been the liberalization of the record of this.


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    • Re: Egypt - Human Confirmed/Suspected Bird Flu Cases, Feb 8, 2009+

      Apparently both articles state that the test results for the 45 day old infant are still pending.

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        <TABLE style="TEXT-ALIGN: left; DIRECTION: ltr" class=contentpaneopen><TBODY><TR><TD class=contentheading width="100&#37;"><TABLE style="TEXT-ALIGN: left; DIRECTION: ltr" class=contentpaneopen><TBODY><TR><TD class=contentheading width="100%">Intensive action to fight bird flu in Port Said </TD><TD class=buttonheading width="100%" align=right> </TD><TD class=buttonheading width="100%" align=right> </TD><TD class=buttonheading width="100%" align=right> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE style="TEXT-ALIGN: left; DIRECTION: ltr" class=contentpaneopen><TBODY><TR><TD>
        حال بلدنا
        If our country </TD></TR><TR><TD class=createdate vAlign=top>
        السبت, 28 مارس 2009 08:45
        Saturday, March 28, 2009 08:45 </TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top>
        تبدأ اللجنة العليا لمقاومة أنفلونزا الطيور، والمكونة بقرار المحافظ رقم 16 لسنة 2006، اجتماعا موسعا يوم الاثنين 30 مارس 2009، بقاعة المجلس التنفيذى بديوان عام محافظة بورسعيد، لمناقشة جدول أعمال اللجنة العليا لمواجهة الأزمات والكوارث والتصدى لمرض أنفلونزا الطيور.
        High Commission to begin to resist avian flu, and the decision of the governor, consisting of 16 No. 2006, an expanded meeting on Monday, March 30, 2009, Hall of the Office of the Executive Council in Port Said governorate, to discuss the agenda of the Supreme Committee to respond to crises, disasters and dealing with bird flu.
        جاء ذلك من خلال خطة عمل مكثفة تشارك فيها مديرية الشئون الصحية والزراعة ومديرية الطب البيطرى والإدارة العامة لشئون البيئة ورؤساء الأحياء وجهاز الإنقاذ والطوارئ، بهدف وضع جدول زمنى لتوعية المواطن بقرى غرب وجنوب بورسعيد عن خطورة المرض، الذى يكمن فى تربية الدواجن والطيور، وينتقل إلى الإنسان مباشرة ويدمر جهاز المناعة.
        This came through a plan of action involving intensive Medical Affairs Directorate and the Directorate of Agriculture and Veterinary Medicine and Public Administration for the Environment, and the neighborhood leaders and emergency rescue, with a view to setting a timetable for the citizen's awareness of the villages of west and south of Port Said on the seriousness of the disease, which is at the poultry and birds, and move-to-human direct and destroys the immune system.
        المصدر : اليوم السابع
        Source: Seventh Day </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD class=buttonheading width="100%" align=right> </TD><TD class=buttonheading width="100%" align=right> </TD><TD class=buttonheading width="100%" align=right> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>http://translate.google.com/translat...3Den%26tl%3Dar
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        • Re: Egypt - Human Confirmed/Suspected Bird Flu Cases, Feb 8, 2009+

          High number of victims of avian flu in Egypt

          The death toll from bird flu in Egypt to 60 cases after the announcement on Friday, wounding an Egyptian girl, two-year-old virus that causes bird flu. The girl, from Qena in Upper Egypt to the hospital after showing symptoms of fever on Monday. It was announced that the Ministry of Health and the Egyptian population in a new confirmed case of human infection with avian influenza. The case of a woman, the new 38-year-old from the Department of Assiut Governorate conquest began showing symptoms of fever and headache on 14 March. On the same day was admitted to hospital and received drug treatment Alooseltamifir are still in stable condition. The Egyptian Central Laboratory of Public Health, on 18 March, the case of HIV infection resulting from the H5N1 strain of bird flu. It appeared from inquiries conducted to determine the source of her Infection they dealt closely with the sick and dead poultry prior to her illness. Of the total confirmed cases in Egypt so far and 59 of the 23 state of the case led to the death. It should be noted that the bird flu virus contagious animal disease caused by viruses primarily infect birds, pigs, as well as in some cases. And avian influenza viruses infect certain types of animals, but in rare cases been able to penetrate the barriers between species and infect humans.
          .snip.the rest is history lesson http://translate.google.com/translat...3Den%26tl%3Dar
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          • Re: Egypt - Human Confirmed/Suspected Bird Flu Cases, Feb 8, 2009+



            إعدام 800 طائر بنجع أبو شوك بقنا
            The execution of 800 birds Samala Abu Shouk Rawash


            السبت، 28 مارس 2009 - 19:21
            Saturday, March 28, 2009 - 19:21

            مسح شامل بعد اكتشاف الحالة رقم 60 لأنفلونزا الطيور فى قنا
            Comprehensive survey after the discovery of the No. 60 of avian influenza in Qena
            قنا ـ هند المغربى
            Qena India Morocco
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            قامت فرق مكافحة مرض أنفلونزا الطيور بمديرية الطب البيطرى بقنا ومباحث التموين، بإعدام 800 طائر بنجع أبو شوك بقرية دندرة، بعد إصابة طفلة بالمرض بالقرية، والتى أصبحت الإصابة رقم 60 فى مصر.
            Teams fight against bird flu, Department of Veterinary Medicine Rawash and Investigation of Supply, the execution of 800 birds Samala village of Abu Shouk Dandara, after the deadly disease, the village, which became infected in Egypt No. 60.


            تم عمل مسح شامل للقرية وتحصين الطيور بالمنطقة، وتشديد الرقابة على منافذ ومداخل ومخارج المحافظة لضبط الطيور المهربة من المحافظات المجاورة وإعدامها فى حال ضبطها، وتحرير محاضر بيطرية لها وإغلاق جميع محال الطيور التى تبيع الطيور الحية بمختلف أنحاء المحافظة على مستوى المراكز والقرى، وتم إغلاق مزرعة ملك عزمى مجلع بإسنا لكونها بدون ترخيص، وإعدام الطيور بها.
            Has been done a thorough survey of the villages and fortify the region's birds, and strict control of outlets to maintain the entrances and exits to control the birds smuggled from neighboring provinces and executed in the event of seizure, and the liberalization of veterinary records and the closure of all shops that sell bird flu in various parts of the living to maintain the level of townships and villages, and the closure of a farm Our King, Azmy Cila being without a license, the execution of the birds.
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            • Re: Egypt - Human Confirmed/Suspected Bird Flu Cases, Feb 8, 2009+

              The discovery of the hotbeds of avian flu in three provinces
              detention of 10 suspected cases of

              March 24, 2009 - 09:59 am
              [The incidence of influenza began to plague doctors, fearing they could be bird flu cases, as a result of the similarity between the scored symptoms, which leads them to the decision to detain the suspected cases, and medical analysis and sampling and monitoring of the situation and the outcome of Monday's detention of 9 cases in three provinces Monoufia is West, and the lake, which requires the immediate intervention of the Ministry of Health and to take effective preventive action away from the sufficiency of awareness-raising campaigns]Woman and her child and her sister lake. The hospital admitted Damanhour detained three people suspected of having bird flu, after the emergence of the disease with symptoms similar to a high temperature, sore throat difficulty in breathing, blood samples were taken of the injured]sent to central laboratories for testing.
              Maj. Majdi Abu Amar has received notification from the hospital admitted the detention of Damanhour Huwaida Ramadan (35 years old), a housewife living in Kafr Dawar Reda Shehata and Nur A. (3 years) and her sister, Nada, which establish the status of the village of Shubra Alnonp Itay gunpowder, and are suspected of having HIV-positive Avian influenza.
              And immediately by the Department of Preventive Medicine and Health The Department of Veterinary Medicine, accompanied by a clearance from the Directorate of Security and check the homes of people living with families and [the surrounding houses, and a sample taken from poultry Mounzlen existing lab examination. Shebin fevers and martyrs holding two Menoufia A d. Hesham Atta, Deputy Minister of Health, the first case of a woman called Shafiqa Fattuh Ahmed (54 years old), a housewife, was admitted hospital seizure Shebin the second case a girl named Israa Mohamed Mabrouk (4 years) and assess the district point of view of al Naoura, was booked hospital fevers martyrs after the emergence of the symptoms of the disease cases due to Achtlathma birds. Detained hospitals Shebin fevers and martyrs, two suspected bird flu, following the emergence of symptoms of the disease on them.
              Sample was taken from the blood of the injured and sent for testing labs, the Ministry of Health with the central clearing houses and the adjacent houses to prevent the spread of the disease.5 cases of fevers and Zvty meeting Sunday attended by Tanta Dr. Sharif Hammouda Undersecretary of the Ministry of Health meeting Sunday attended by the detention of 5 new cases and the hospital admitted Tanta Zvty, for suspected bird flu. Where he was detained by the morning, Mr. Abul-Magd (29 years) and Hanim Abdullah Awad (39 years) and Fatma Abdel-Maksoud (45 years) Bhmyat Zvty, was also detained Ayatollah Ahmed Shousha (3 years) and counterpart Omar Saeed (30 years) Bhmyat Tanta . and melancholy hours,and sent to labs central Ministry of Health with the extent of illness, whether or not to have been given the drug Altaymflo.
              The pace of discovery and openness towards the survival of Assiut. For his part, met the governor of Assiut Nabil Ezabi Monday, his office, which mirrored Ms. recovering after being infected with bird flu to maintain, the Zainab Mustafa (38 years) from the village center Almasrp opening.
              اEzabi said that the speed of reporting and accuracy of diagnosis and the positive that has characterized the situation in recognition of raising chickens and geese, and a number of them have died have had the biggest impact in the early detection of the virus and speed to deal with it. http://translate.google.com/translat...r%26start%3D90
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              • Re: Egypt - Human Confirmed/Suspected Bird Flu Cases, Feb 8, 2009+

                <table style="text-align: left; direction: ltr;" width="100&#37;"><tbody><tr></tr><tr><td width="80%"><center style="text-align: left; direction: ltr;">Press release of the National Committee for Combating Bird Flu

                </center>
                On Thursday 26/3/2009, the bird flu human infection No.
                On Thursday 26/3/2009, the bird flu human infection No.60 was confirmed.
                Israa' Saeed Abdul-Shafi, aged two years and a half, from Nagaa' Abou Shouk village, Dandara, Qena governorate.
                .
                The child showed symptoms of infection on Monday 23/3/2009 after contracting the virus from infected birds.
                She was admitted to hospital on Tuesday 24/03/2009, suffering from high temperature and cough. She was given the antiviral vaccine Tamiflu.


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                • Re: Egypt - Human Confirmed/Suspected Bird Flu Cases, Feb 8, 2009+

                  Detention of "transfer" of the suspicion
                  في إصابته بأنفلونزا الطيور
                  Bird flu
                  المنصورة - آمال طرابية
                  Mansoura - hopes Trabip
                  تم احتجاز محمد دياب عطايا حوالة -18 سنة- من مركز المطرية بمستشفي الصدر بالمنصورة للاشتباه بإصابته بمرض انفلونزا الطيور.

                  Been detained, Mohammed Diab, Attaya transfer -18 years - from the Center for the rain-Sadr hospital in Mansoura on suspicion afflicted with bird flu.
                  علي الفور تم عمل كردون أمني حول منزله وتطهيره عن طريق الصحة والبيئة حفاظا علي باقي أفراد الأسرة.

                  Were immediately Kerdoun security work around the house, and purging through the health and the environment in order to preserve the rest of the family


                  http://www.algomhuria.net.eg/almessa...t/detail09.asp

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                  • Re: Egypt - Human Confirmed/Suspected Bird Flu Cases, Feb 8, 2009+

                    Two-year-old girl contracts bird flu AFP/Cairo
                    A two-year-old Egyptian girl has contracted bird flu, the 60th reported case since the first outbreak of the disease in the country in 2006, a health ministry spokesman said yesterday.
                    The toddler has been taken to hospital and is in stable condition, said ministry spokesman Abdel Rahman Shahin.
                    Twenty-three people have died of bird flu in Egypt. Most of the victims have been young girls or women, who are generally in charge of looking after poultry in rural areas.
                    Shahin said the percentage of fatalities from bird flu in Egypt is less than in other countries that have seen outbreaks of the disease.
                    The World Health Organisation (WHO) called earlier this month for an investigation into why many of the victims have been young children.
                    Egypt hosted an international conference on bird flu in October, when Washington pledged an additional $320mn to the fight against the disease amid fears it may yet escalate into a global pandemic.
                    The H5N1 strain of the virus that is most dangerous to humans first emerged in Asia in 2003 and has since caused nearly 250 deaths, according to WHO figures.

                    http://www.gulf-times.com/site/topic...7&parent_id=17

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                    • Re: Egypt - Human Confirmed/Suspected Bird Flu Cases, Feb 8, 2009+

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                      ‏السنة 133-العدد
                      Year 133 - Issue </td><td>
                      2009
                      2009 </td><td>
                      مارس
                      March </td><td>
                      29
                      29 </td><td>
                      ‏2 من ربيع الاخر 1430 هـ
                      2 of the other Spring 1430 e </td><td>
                      الأحد
                      Sunday </td></tr></tbody></table>
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                      إصابة جديدة بإنفلونزا الطيور
                      New bird flu
                      لطفلة بمحافظة قنا
                      Girl in Qena


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                      قنا ـ من أسامة الهواري‏:‏
                      Qena Hawwari from Osama:
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                      أصيبت طفلة تبلغ من العمر عامين ونصف العام‏,‏ وتدعي إسراء سعد عبدالشافي من قرية دندرة بقنا بإنفلونزا الطيور وهي حالة إصابة جديدة بالمرض‏,‏ وأوضح مصدر طبي أن حالة الطفلة مستقرة‏,‏ وأن درجة حرارتها ثابتة عند‏37,5‏ درجة‏.‏


                      Was a girl, aged two
                      and a half years, and claims Israa Saad Shafi from the village of Dandara Rawash avian influenza, new cases of the disease, and medical source said that the situation of the girl child is stable, and that the temperature constant at 37.5 degrees .

                      http://www.ahram.org.eg/Index.asp?Cu...3.htm&DID=9901

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                        Hussain and Minya Najla Fathi:

                        احتجز مستشفي حميات العدوة الطفلة «إيمان رجب حسن» ــ 5 سنوات ــ والتي تقيم بقرية «الغايات» بعد أن ظهرت عليها أعراض الإصابة بإنفلونزا الطيور إذ تعاني آلاماً عامة بالجسم وشخوصاً بالعينين وارتفاعاً شديداً بدرجة الحرارة.

                        Detained hospital fevers Odwa girl «Iman Hassan Ragab» 5 years, which has the village of «ends» after showing symptoms of avian influenza infection as a public body to suffer pain and Chkhosa eyes and a sharp increase in temperature.

                        وفي نفس الإطار احتجز مستشفي الصدر بالمنيا «سامية عيد حسن» ــ 50 سنة ــ ربة منزل مقيمة بقرية «دمشير» بعد أن اشتبه الأطباء في إصابتها بالفيروس، خاصة أن السيدة تخالط الطيور الحية بمنزلها، وتم أخذ عينة من دمها وإرسالها لمعامل وزارة الصحة،

                        In the same vein detained Sadr hospital queens «Samia Hassan Eid» 50-year village resident homemaker «Damisher» after doctors suspected of being infected with HIV, especially as the contact with live birds Ms. house, and a sample of blood taken and sent to the labs of the Ministry of Health, The unit of local centers in the Upper Egyptian enemy action inspections to detect the virus found a house suspected of being infected with the virus.




                        http://dostor.org/ar/index.php?optio...8520&Itemid=37

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                          Originally posted by Florida1 View Post
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                          ‏السنة 133-العدد
                          Year 133 - Issue </td><td>
                          2009
                          2009 </td><td>
                          مارس
                          March </td><td>
                          29
                          29 </td><td>
                          ‏2 من ربيع الاخر 1430 هـ
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                          Sunday </td></tr></tbody></table>
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                          إصابة جديدة بإنفلونزا الطيور
                          New bird flu
                          لطفلة بمحافظة قنا
                          Girl in Qena


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                          قنا ـ من أسامة الهواري‏:‏
                          Qena Hawwari from Osama:
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                          أصيبت طفلة تبلغ من العمر عامين ونصف العام‏,‏ وتدعي إسراء سعد عبدالشافي من قرية دندرة بقنا بإنفلونزا الطيور وهي حالة إصابة جديدة بالمرض‏,‏ وأوضح مصدر طبي أن حالة الطفلة مستقرة‏,‏ وأن درجة حرارتها ثابتة عند‏37,5‏ درجة‏.‏


                          Was a girl, aged two
                          and a half years, and claims Israa Saad Shafi from the village of Dandara Rawash avian influenza, new cases of the disease, and medical source said that the situation of the girl child is stable, and that the temperature constant at 37.5 degrees .

                          http://www.ahram.org.eg/Index.asp?Cu...3.htm&DID=9901

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                          Low temp and stable condition with no mention of pneumonia or ventilators signal another mild toddler case who will quickly recover.

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                            Commentary

                            http://www.recombinomics.com/News/03...dler_Mild.html

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                            • Re: Egypt - Human Confirmed/Suspected Bird Flu Cases, Feb 8, 2009+

                              The risk factors for the toddlers are unclear. Increased mobility may lead to more exposure to backyard flocks, but infections in older children has been frequently reported previously suggesting the sudden rising in toddler cases may be linked to immunological protection in older patients due to cross reactivity with H1N1 seasonal flu, or an unreported exposure to prior H5N1 infections.
                              [From above Dr Niman commentary.]

                              Cross-reactivity between H1N1 and H5N1 antibodies in humans was previously suggest by professor Edwin Kilbourne but at the time from several parts this concept was discarderd.

                              Why did most people discard this idea and - further - could be actually possible?

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                                Originally posted by ironorehopper View Post
                                [From above Dr Niman commentary.]

                                Cross-reactivity between H1N1 and H5N1 antibodies in humans was previously suggest by professor Edwin Kilbourne but at the time from several parts this concept was discarderd.

                                Why did most people discard this idea and - further - could be actually possible?
                                I think the cross reactivity with seasonal flu was largely discarded because only the N1's have the same sero-type, but human and avian N1's are fairly distinct. Similarly, most of the immunological activity is directed against H, and H1 is quite distinct from H5.

                                However, an immunological explanation of some sort is appealing because toddlers combine mobility/access to H5N1 with a relatively naive immune system.

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