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  • Egypt: 11 cases of "undiagnosed virus", 3 children died in Shubra Al Khaimahm, Qalyoubia governorate - March 15, 2017 - WHO onsite and MoH denies pandemic

    We know Egypt can diagnose H5N1, so this might be something else. There also seems like a high risk this may be a false report:

    Published Date: 2017-03-15 21:01:26
    Subject: PRO/EDR> Undiagnosed virus - Egypt: RFI
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    UNDIAGNOSED VIRUS - EGYPT: REQUEST FOR INFORMATION
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    Date: Wed 15 Mar 2017
    Source: Egypt Independent [edited]
    http://www.egyptindependent.com/news...pitals-sources


    Several people are being held at Imbaba and Abbassiya specialized fever hospitals after contracting a virus that doctors are still unable to diagnose, medical sources said amid a media blackout on the part of the Health Ministry.

    An informed source said a secret meeting was held at the ministry on Monday [13 Mar 2015] to discuss the issue. Further meetings are ongoing. The number of patients held at the hospitals does not exceed 5 cases, the source added.

    A medical source inside Imbaba hospital said some of the infected have been isolated because until the virus is identified, doctors in Egypt are unable to prescribe a suitable treatment.

    Al-Masry Al-Youm toured the hospital, trying to reach out to these patients, but the reporter was unable to enter the building where they are held.

    Dr. Sherif Fam, head of the Imbaba specialized fever hospital, refused to give information about the patients, claiming he was busy. However, one of the doctors confirmed that about 5 patients are being held there.

    Dr. Mohamed al-Sawy, Fam's deputy, said: "We don't have anything like that. Maybe it's in Abbassiya hospital."

    Another doctor indicated that talks are ongoing with the ministry's central laboratories to identify the virus.

    Dr. Ashraf al-Atraby, head of the Health Ministry's department for fevers, denied that anyone is being held at either of the hospitals. He suggested the reporter try to reach ministry spokesperson Khaled Megahed for comment, but he did not respond.

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    [It is not clear why the Health Ministry is maintaining silence concerning these cases. No symptoms are described, and almost no information is provided other than there being 5 cases.

    It is possible that these cases are A(H5N1) avian influenza. The Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations (FAO) reported on their EMPRES system 2 human H5N1 avian influenza cases [on 28 Feb 2017]. The 1st case was reported from Al-Minya (Menia) Governorate in Upper Egypt. The 2nd case, which was fatal, was from Faiyum, a city in Middle Egypt.

    Human cases of H5N1 avian influenza occur occasionally, but it is difficult to transmit the infection from person to person. When people do become infected, the mortality rate is about 60%. Almost all cases of H5N1 infection in people have been associated with close contact with infected live or dead birds, or H5N1-contaminated environments. The virus does not infect humans easily, and spread from person to person appears to be unusual.

    The number of confirmed human cases of avian influenza A(H5N1) reported to WHO since 2003 is 856, with 452 resulting in death (excerpted from http://bit.ly/2mA3D09).

    Any information on this outbreak would be greatly appreciated.

    Last edited by sharon sanders; March 16, 2017, 06:17 AM. Reason: format

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    VIDEO .. "PREVENTIVE MEDICINE" REVEALS THE DETAILS OF A MYSTERIOUS VIRUS ABBASID FEVER HOSPITAL EMERGENCE

    Thursday, March 16, 2017 00:07

    Dr. Amr Qandil, head of preventive medicine sector, said the total cases of the mysterious virus Hospital Abbasid and Imbaba Fever reached 11 cases, including three deaths children, and two are being held Abbasid viruses.

    He added, "Qandil" during a phone call with "ten pm" program broadcast on the channel "Dream" that the specialist committee in the detection of the virus has not yet reached to the fact that the symptoms, saying: "Mesh able to determine the cause of the symptoms AMD."

    He pointed out that it was to inform the Ministry of Health and the presence of medical conditions from one family came to the Fever Hospital Imbaba infected with symptoms of vomiting and diarrhea, adding that samples were taken from the home of the infected cases were negative samples.

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    • #3







      Brief 1 pm .. The Minister of Health: Infection wounded 11 people in Shubra and caused the death of three children

      Thursday, March 16, 2017 13:02



      Website published the "seventh day" a number of news and important issues during the past few hours, on her head, announcement by the Minister of Health for the emergence of infectious virus infected 11 people in Shubra and caused the death of three children,

      Minister of Health: contagious virus infected 11 people in Shubra and caused the death of three children


      Dr. Ahmed Emad El Din, Minister of Health and Population, said that the new virus that hit the 11 citizen Shubra Al Khaimah area, contagious virus and can infect anyone.

      ...

      http://www.youm7.com/story/2017/3/16...%D8%AA/3146543

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      • #4

        Dangerous virus hits ?Shubra? .. and ?Health? warns of catastrophe

        Thursday, March 16, 2017 12:17

        Dr. Imad Eddin Ahmed Radi, Minister of Health and Population, said that the new virus, which hit 11 citizens Shubra Al Khaimah region, ?contagious virus? and can affect anyone by infection. He added, "Imad al-Din," in a press statement on the sidelines of the celebration of "the Egyptian Women's Day" Girls College, Ain Shams University, said Thursday that the

        ministry received a report injured four people in a Feb. 28, with symptoms of a strange virus, Shubra Al Khaimah area, and was immediately detention of Imbaba Fever Hospital, and conduct many tests and medical examinations, but they did not produce any result.


        He stressed the minister, the number of injured increased to 11 cases from the same family after visiting their relatives, which confirms that the virus is contagious. The Minister of Health to the deaths of three children affected by the virus unknown,

        explaining that there are two left the hospital after their symptoms go and book the rest in the hospitals, in addition to the ministry's use of nuclear medicine in an attempt to gain access to the virus.
        It is worth mentioning that the Ministry of Health and Population announced the injury of

        11 people with symptoms similar to gastroenteritis and suspected poisoning, for two families linked by kinship and residents of the two houses independent in Shubra Al Khaimah Qaliubiya province, but the causes of infection has not been identified.



        http://www.moheet.com/2017/03/16/255...%B0%D8%B1.html

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        • #5
          At this point it appears that a total of 11 people are/were ill. 3 children died. 2 patients were released from the hospital and 6 remain in the hospital. The symptoms are similar to gastroenteritis and the victims are in two families that are related.

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          • #6
            This report that quotes the local health official in Qaliubiya downplays the situation....

            ?Health Qaliubiya?: the fact of Shubra Al Khaimah old and were announced recently


            Wednesday, 15 / March / 2017 - 22:59



            Dr. Hamdi cook, Undersecretary of the Ministry of Health in Qaliubiya, that caught the fever and wounding two families who announced them and the Ministry of Health is an old incident occurred in January last was advertised currently there are no suspected cases of fever final.

            Undersecretary added that the incident back when the kid from Shubra Al Khaimah presented in January, which is when his grandmother was rushed to Imbaba Fever Hospital and was diagnosed with cerebral suspicions of a fever and died in the hospital.

            He pointed out that one of his relatives were visiting the home and had been a child of the injury caught a gastric and entered the hospital, which led to intervention by the Ministry of Health and survey work full checks and withdraw blood samples for the two families was the work of medical tests at the Ministry of Health laboratories and found that there was no suspicion of a fever and all the negative samples

            أكد الدكتور حمدي الطباخ، وكيل وزارة الصحة في القليوبية، أن واقعة إصابة أسرتين بالحمى والذي أعلنت عنهم وزارة الصحة هي واقعة قديمة وقعت في شهر يناير الماضي وتم الإعلان عنها حاليًا ولا توجد حالات ...





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            • #7
              Ministry of Health statement:
              Injuring 11 cases of flu-like gastroenteritis and suspected poisoning ..oganh for fact-field epidemic did not discover new people with the same symptoms
              March 15, 2017

              The Ministry of Health and Population injuring 11 people like symptoms of gastroenteritis and suspected poisoning, for two families linked by kinship and Mqamyin in independent houses in Shubra Al Khaimah Qaliubiya province. Dr. Amr Qandil , head of preventive medicine sector and pointed out that immediately after reporting the first case of which the old lady is 63 - year - old was booked Fever Hospital Imbaba, the Ministry of Health and Population ,immediately formed a committee to investigate the field epidemiological and reported its findings that a number of the back of the onset of 11 people consisted symptoms in a sudden severe vomiting, diarrhea, abdominal pain, and increased severity of symptoms in some cases, especially among children and the elderly. He added that all the infected cases hesitated to public hospitals and clinics and private to receive the necessary treatment, and died three cases, corresponded with 6 cases of full recovery and came out better, and there are only two cases so far under treatment. The "jellyfish" to carry the team to follow up the ministry 'sPreventive number of 17 people in contact Mounzlen, stressing not appear or discover any symptoms satisfactory to them, as was the work of finding and endemic neighboring homes for two houses was not detected any similar medical conditions. Head of Preventive Medicine in Gaza and said he was taking several preventive measures, whether for people or for the two houses, referred to them to carry out tests laboratory for advanced viruses and potential bacteria can be the cause of the appearance of these symptoms, where it was the work of testing toxins and heavy metals cases, scanning the peaks of radioactive objects by a team of nuclear energy Commission, and finding work for insects and disease vectors, and monitoring and measuring air pollutants, and tests for all types of dry food, cooked and water from the houses referred to detect the presence of any bacteria or toxins nurse. As has been the formation of a committee of Egyptian university professors in the field of public health, children, and toxins as well as experts from the Ministry of Health in the field of epidemiology, laboratories, fevers, where the Committee recommended to continue in the work of epidemiological investigation and take further laboratory and environmental testing in search of likely group to be the cause of the onset of symptoms Previous. And The Ministry of Health and Population that these cases that have emerged are only linked by kinship and there is a final of any other cases in neighboring houses, or for people who have dealt with these cases in the workplace or in hospitals and the ministry are looking and investigating to find the cause behind these limited cases occurrence of two families . She appealed to the Ministry of Health and Population and the media not to be deceived by rumors tendentious which would raise Azaar and confusion for citizens, and took proper data and information from sources at the Ministry of Health, For the benefit of the Egyptian citizen.

              http://www.mohp.gov.eg/ar/NewsDetail...ubject_id=2324

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              • #8
                I find it extremely interesting that the Ministry of Health issued a statement on this outbreak when, generally, they do not comment on H5N1 suspected/actual cases.

                I am very skeptical of anything published by the government of Egypt.

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                • #9
                  Apparently a WHO representative is on site.


                  Health Minister speaks for the "seventh day" for the mysterious fevers in Imbaba infection .. it asserts: We have not reached yet the reasons my family Shubra Al Khaimah injuries .. and pull the new tests for people and contacts to unravel the mysteries of infection samples

                  Thursday, March 16, 2017 22:20
                  nder the broad frequency resonances about the incident, "the mysterious contagion" spread between two families in Shoubra Al Khaimah, the keenness of Dr Ahmed Imad al-Din, Minister of Health, to uncover the circumstances of it, and to clarify the ministry's position on the crisis that took place at the end of February. In this regard, Dr. Imad Ahmed, it has not yet been reached for the real reason behind the symptoms, which appeared on the families of Shubra Al Khaimah and well-known media overwhelmed infected mysterious. The Minister of Health and Population , in a statement for " The Seventh Day" has all the necessary medical tests work to uncover the causes of the onset of symptoms to the injured and proven passivity, referring to the withdrawal of all people from the hospital after the improvement of their condition , except for one case of a child in a military hospital evacuation . Dr. Ahmed Imad out that there is a scientific committee of high - level problem of the 16 university professor at Ain Shams Palace Aini mission to follow proper scientific method of detecting ambiguity injuries that appeared on the families of Shubra Al Khaimah, pointing out that those professors specialize in food and toxins, including a representative of the organization WHO as well as experts in epidemiology . Dr. Imad Ahmed added that this Committee met today in the second session after the crisis and have issued a series of recommendations including a review of what has been implemented during the last period of analysis and monitoring with a review of the current epidemiological situation of the cases . Dr. Imad Ahmed, Minister of Health and Population and continued to follow the Commission's recommendations included the status of the girl child is currently reserved for military Jalaa hospital, pointing out that the Commission agreed to withdraw a new analysis of samples from the two families and those injured in the Mkhaltinhm. Dr. Ahmed Imad He said he will be checked pesticides , heavy metals and the withdrawal of food samples and water from the first house appeared faithful symptoms, stressing that preventive medicine teams continuing in the survey and investigation to uncover the causes of injuries to reach a specific diagnosis for these symptoms . The Ministry of Health and Population announced wounding 11 people like symptoms of gastroenteritis and suspected poisoning, for two families linked by kinship and residents of the two houses independent in Shubra Al Khaimah Qaliubiya province . Dr. Amr Qandil, head of Preventive Medicine in Gaza, said in previous statements that he immediately reported the first case of which the old lady, 63, was booked Fever Hospital Imbaba, and the Ministry of Health and Population, immediately formed a committee to investigate the field epidemic, reported results that the number of they appeared symptoms of 11 people consisted of symptoms in a sudden severe vomiting, diarrhea, abdominal pain, and increased severity of symptoms in some cases, especially among children and the elderly. Amr Kandil pointed out that the working Preventive ministry follow-up of 17 people from the houses, saying you do not receive or detect any symptoms they were also the work of finding and endemic neighboring homes for two houses were not detect any similar medical conditions, pointing out that it was withdrawing samples of hair infected for analysis He was not sent any samples to be analyzed abroad. Head of Preventive Medicine in Gaza and said he was taking several preventive measures, whether for people or for the two houses referred them to carry out tests laboratory for advanced viruses and bacteria are likely to be the cause of the appearance of these symptoms, where it was the work of testing toxins and heavy metals cases, scanning the peaks of radioactive objects by a team of nuclear energy Commission, and finding work for insects and disease vectors, monitor and measure air pollutants, and tests for all types of dry food, cooked and water from the houses referred to detect the presence of any bacteria or toxins nurse. He pointed out that the cases that have emerged were two families all share a kinship there is no definitive any other cases in neighboring houses, or for people who have dealt with these cases in the workplace or in hospitals and the ministry are looking and investigating to find the cause behind these limited cases occur.



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                  • #10


                    Cautious calm in Shubra Al Khaimah after the death of three children to ?mysterious infection?

                    Posted on: Friday, March 17, 2017 - 16:16 | Last Updated: Friday, March 17, 2017 - 16:16
                    ? neighbors of the victims: Canned anonymous reason
                    ? Undersecretary of the Ministry of Health: accident since January .. The recent case died last Friday
                    ? minister form specialized committees to determine the cause of death .. and pulled samples from infected again


                    A state of calm among the citizens and the people in Shubra Al Khaimah area Qaliubiya province following the death of three children and injuring eight others from two families linked by kinship and residents of the two houses independent next to Abu Hana Mosque, after contracting the infection mysterious represented symptoms of vomiting sudden and severe diarrhea and abdominal pain, and increased severity of symptoms in some cases, especially among children and the elderly , where the province and health agencies surveyed the area and the withdrawal of samples.

                    He pointed a neighbors house, today, that the death occurred to the king of the house ?Nadia. A ?employee at the gas company bought cans of tuna and beef was manufactured by some bacteria caused the poisoning of her daughter? commissions ?died evacuated after the death of two children were surprised by their relatives.

                    The Undersecretary of the Ministry of Health , Dr. Hamdy Qalyoubia cook the stability of the health situation in the region and do not receive any suspected cases of poisoning or injury fever epidemic hospitals did not receive any county - level cases, pointing out that things are stable in Abu Hana Mosque area.

                    Cook, explained that the incident was in January last for 3 children of the children were injured vomited, diarrhea, high temperature and transferred to a hospital diets Balabash and died a couple of them and another case died Friday last week, pointing out that the Ministry of Health sent a specialized committees in conjunction with the Directorate to take samples of water and eating to find out the cause of death.

                    Cook and continued that until now suspected to be a cause of death was blood poisoning, but the test results have not as yet come to a new, appealing to people not to panic and deliberation until the end of the test results to determine the cause of death in children.

                    He continued: ?Preventive Medicine Sector at the Ministry will draw other samples of patients and contacts of the two families and take samples of blood, urine, feces and hair, and examination of pesticides in the house again , and heavy metals such as iron, arsenic, mercury, lead and copper, as well as to withdraw samples from the home of the first person wounded in the family infected Based on the recommendations of the committee formed by the Minister of Health , consisting of professors of preventive medicine and epidemiology to determine the causes of what happened to them ?


                    سادت حالة من الهدوء الحذر بين المواطنين والأهالى فى منطقة شبرا الخيمة بمحافظة القليوبية عقب وفاة 3 أطفال وإصابة 8 آخرين من أسرتين



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                    • #11
                      In statements to Egypt and the Arab ..
                      Former director of diets: the symptoms of ?El virus? refers to move through the digestive system


                      March 17, 2017 17:04



                      Sana said Dr. Fuad, the former fever hospital director, doctors and Captain Giza, if there is some sort of opacity and non - disclosure of information about Shubra virus unknown that hit a number of citizens over the past period.


                      Commented, "Fuad", in a statement to Egypt and the Arab's, the Minister of Health, Dr. Ahmed Imad Eddin Radi's remarks that "the virus is contagious, was hurt by the medical team," it is possible that the virus is not contagious through the respiratory tract, there is a likelihood of another as contagious through the digestive system, especially that of infection and symptoms that appeared on the patients were in the form of diarrhea, and vomiting.

                      She drew Fouad, that may be the vaccinations take her medical team against infection is done to protect them from becoming infected, and there is another possibility that strong anti-infection procedures.

                      The previous diets manager, that even now, and in general there is no specific information about the virus indicate that novelty or even old, but active in the current period, for example, pointing out that dealing with infectious viruses have specific ways that are yet to determine how infection from this virus.

                      She explained Fouad, there are some viruses that infect through the respiratory tract and returned the injury be as easy viruses spread very rapidly and these viruses "influenza various types," and there are some viruses that are transmitted through the digestive system, such as hepatitis A, and there are some viruses also travels through the digestive system and diarrhea occur fatal.

                      I completed the previous diets manager, that there is some sort of virus, which is transmitted by blood transfusion and blood products and vaccines Kalplazema including both types of hepatitis "C, B", and inflammation of the viruses as well as viral immune "HIV" infection.

                      Dr. Imad Eddin Ahmed Radi, Minister of Health and Population has confirmed last Thursday that the 11 citizens Qaliubiya province, injured an unknown virus and is contagious.

                      He said Radi, in a press statement on the sidelines of the celebration of "the Egyptian Women's Day", the Faculty of Girls, Ain Shams University, the ministry received a report injured four people in a Feb. 28, with symptoms of a strange virus, Shubra Al Khaimah area, and were immediately detained Fever Hospital Imbaba, and conduct many tests and medical examinations, but they did not produce any result.

                      The Minister of Health, noted that the number of injured increased to 11 cases from the same family after visiting their relatives, which confirms that the virus is contagious.

                      Radi explained that there are three children succumbed to this unknown virus, pointing out that there are two left the hospital after their symptoms go and book the rest in the hospitals, in addition to the ministry's use of nuclear medicine in an attempt to gain access to the virus
                      .





                      http://www.masralarabia.com/%D8%A7%D...B6%D9%85%D9%8A

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                      • #12
                        Translation Google

                        Health plunging into the "mysterious infection" .. and Deputy Director of Imbaba Fever reveals a surprise about the cause of death of 3 children

                        Friday 17 / March / 2017 - 19:41

                        Amid the anxiety experienced by the Egyptian people after the circulation of news about an epidemic mysterious in Qaliubiya, Shubra Al Khaimah area, reviled in the death of three children from one family, raised the Ministry of Health emergency attempt decipher this virus, failed to determine what it is, to come to the hospital Imbaba fever, which was reserved for the deceased cases to reveal the secret of the mysterious virus.

                        The story of the "mysterious virus"

                        Full details of the story begins what is known in the media as the "mysterious virus" in Imbaba Fever Hospital, since the ministry received a tip infecting 11 people from two families linked by kinship and Mqamyin in independent houses in Shubra Al Khaimah Qaliubiya province-like symptoms of gastroenteritis and suspected poisoning.

                        After the death of the first three children age two and a half and three the second and third years 7 months, of the injured, deliberated news about the spread of "mysterious virus".

                        Health: We did not determine yet what the mysterious virus

                        For his part, Dr. Ahmed Imad al-Din, Minister of Health, they did not know what the mysterious virus, adding that a team of doctors and all concerned shared analyzes the crisis of the area hit by the disease and the results appeared negative for all viruses and microbes.

                        He said the program "Life Today," saying: "Our work all analyzes blood and urine and feces of nuclear radiation and Mafeesh obvious reason not knowing er is a disease and the cause of the symptoms de", adding that the three deaths from the same family and they are all children as well as 11 wounded so far, they they received a complaint since Feb. 28, but they have yet to this disease.

                        Preventive Medicine: Mesh able to determine the nature of the virus

                        Said Dr. Amr Qandil, head of preventive medicine at the Ministry of the health sector, said the ministry has formed a committee of field of inquiry on what has been circulated about the existence of "mysterious virus" area of ​​Imbaba, referring to the injury of 11 people, and the death of three children, with the virus whose symptoms in cases of vomiting sudden severe diarrhea and abdominal pain.

                        The head of the Preventive Medicine Sector at the Ministry of Health, in a phone call to the program "is happening in Egypt," the ministry teams had to take the "blood" and "pee" and "poo" samples of all the injured, to determine the truth of the virus but it has not reached a real virus , saying: "Mesh able to determine the nature of the virus."

                        Right medication: wait a report Atomic Energy Commission to determine the identity of the virus

                        He pointed Mahmoud Fouad, director of the Egyptian Center for the right to medicine, to the epidemic mystery that has spread in the Qaliubiya, its symptoms resemble influenza, intestinal, explaining that it is not contagious, nor poisoning case, pointing out that the Ministry of Health has not yet determined the truth of this virus.

                        He stressed Fuad, in exclusive statements to "Dawn" that the Atomic Energy Commission gathered belongings the people of the two families of the deceased child's clothing and utensils, to see if they have been exposed to radioactivity monitoring or not.

                        Imbaba Fever Hospital denies the existence of the mysterious virus

                        On the other hand revealed Samir Antar, Vice Fever Hospital Imbaba manager, the truth of what was raised recently about the "mysterious virus", saying: "It began statement is an official of one of the doctors to the people of the three children who died, including said parents Media, which in turn began to promote a common virus mysterious .. There is no mysterious virus versa this disease Uncategorized years ago but it is not unknown among the general public and the so-called Mediterranean fever or mysterious fever (brucellosis). "

                        The Antar, in exclusive statements to "Dawn" that these three cases was greeted by Fever Hospital, infected fever cases unusual, were symptoms of "severe pain in the head, body aches, and a sense of unease with shortness of breath and the inability to eat or swallow anything, high heat and Sgunah, severe fatigue, vomiting, diarrhea, "explaining that he had been dealt with by the parents before they enter the hospital, and doctors after entering the hospital, misconduct and negligence caused the aggravation of heat to lead to stop the brain and then a drop in blood circulation led to the death.

                        He pointed out that this fever is fatal, but is not contagious and is transmitted to humans through livestock (goats and sheep) inflows to Egypt from abroad as a result of eating meat and dairy sick animals, or frequent mixing cats and dogs, and the growing spread between the groups that deal directly with the animals during slaughter .

                        He said Vice Fever Hospital Imbaba manager, that the fever must be dealt with systematically treated through "relieve clothing, drink many fluids, rest, eat antipyretic," explaining that the Ministry of Health moves about the existence of a mysterious virus was based on an anonymous told one of the doctors at the hospital for an epidemic and a mysterious virus, pointing out that the ministry's remarks now for lack of knowledge of the disease confusion and irresponsible remarks.


                        وسط حالة القلق التي عاشها الشعب المصري بعد تداول أنباء عن وجود وباء غامض في محافظة القليوبية، بمنطقة شبرا الخيمة، تسب في وفاة 3 أطفال من أسرة ...
                        "Safety and security don't just happen, they are the result of collective consensus and public investment. We owe our children, the most vulnerable citizens in our society, a life free of violence and fear."
                        -Nelson Mandela

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                        • #13
                          It seems clear at this point that this is not influenza (H5N1 included) because they would have diagnosed it by now. Other than that, we really haven't been given any list of excluded diagnoses, and the symptoms reported are very vague and common to many illnesses. I see fever, vomiting, abdominal pain and diarrhea as the most common symptoms, but the last article adds headache and shortness of breath.

                          ​The last few paragraphs above suggest some kind of animal exposure. "Brucellosis" itself rarely affects humans, but is often a translation artifact for several other zoonotic pathogens, such as Q fever. We have also seen a couple articles in other outbreaks mentioning "brucellosis" as a mistranslation from Arabic of "foot and mouth disease", when the real intent is HFMD. HFMD, of course, is not a zoonosis.

                          ​It is not clear what the evidence for H2H transmission as opposed to a single common exposure. Notably, we are not aware of any cases with onset after the initial posts of this thread.

                          ​If they're looking for radioactive exposures, something that would be incredibly unlikely, it might suggest that a long list of infectious agents have already been excluded, but again, no source has given us such a list.

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                          • #14
                            Published Date: 2017-03-17 17:04:40
                            Subject: PRO/EDR> Undiagnosed virus - Egypt (02): comment, RFI
                            Archive Number: 20170317.4908355
                            UNDIAGNOSED VIRUS - EGYPT (02): COMMENT, REQUEST FOR INFORMAQTION
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                            Date: Fri 17 Mar 2017
                            Source: EpiCore Global Surveillance Project [edited]

                            This is a comment received from an EpiCore member in response to:
                            Re: Undiagnosed virus - Egypt: RFI 20170315.4903834

                            "The 11 cases of illness reported earlier were actually emesis diarrhea and colic, identified in children and elderly of 2 families. It has been suggested by the MOH that these are due to suspected water poisoning, following testing of environmental and clinical samples, and not a virus as originally stated. A total of 6 cases improved and were discharged, but 3 children died."

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                            [There have been no further reports of illness or death, but certainly this situation should be closely watched. It has been reported that laboratory tests are being conducted to detect viruses, bacteria, toxins, heavy metals, testing of insects and disease vectors, monitoring and measuring air pollutants, and testing food items (Avian flu diary num. 12,321 http://afludiary.blogspot.com/). It is hoped that such thorough epidemiological investigation will be helpful in further clarifying the etiologic agent causing this cluster of illness. It is good news that it has not spread outside the 2 households, but it is still not clear why secrecy surrounded this episode of illness.

                            ProMED thanks the contributors to Epicore who submitted this information on the undiagnosed cluster of cases in Egypt.

                            Last edited by sharon sanders; March 18, 2017, 12:46 AM. Reason: format

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                            • #15
                              Hat-tip Michael Coston. Machine translation. It is possible a fourth case has died.

                              قالت الدكتورة شادية ثابت، عضو لجنة الصحة بمجلس النواب، إنه سيتم تصعيد قضية الفيروسات المجهولة لأنها تمثل خطر حقيقي خاصة مع تكرار الحالات حيث أصيب في القليوبية



                              Of Dr Shadia static member of the Health Committee of the House of Representatives

                              Shadia said Dr. Thabet, a member of the Health Committee of the House of Representatives, it will be an escalation of the issue of the unknown viruses because they represent a real danger especially with repeat cases where injured in Qaliubiya 11 people died and three of whom were wounded in Imbaba 4 cases died, one of them.

                              She fixed, "homeland", she approached Dr. Ahmed Emad, Minister of Health, Dr. Amr Qandil, head of Preventive Medicine, Ministry of Health, address Health Organization to detect such viruses that may be unknown to our new, as happened in the avian and swine before.

                              She noted that the Health Committee will hold a meeting early next week in the presence of the minister with a number of House of Representatives more than a request for information in this regard.

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