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  • Egypt - 5 or 6 doctors hospitalized including 4 dead from unknown/pneumonia/respiratory illnesses in last 3 weeks - Dakahlia and Qalyubia govenorates - January 18, 2014 - unconfirmed rpt:WHO adviser now on site in Mansoura, Dakahalia (January 19)

    According to our records:


    1)Dr. Ahmed Abdullatif - deceased
    Egypt - Ministry of Health closes private hospital after death of a doctor from pneumonia - negligence alleged - Banha, Qalyubia governorate - December 28

    2)Dr. Osama (last name assumed to be Rashid) - hospitalized on respirator
    Egypt - Doctor, 37, hospitalized suspected novel coronavirus - tests pending - Mansoura, Dakahlia govenorate - January 8

    3)Dr. Doaa Ahmed Ismail - deceased
    Egypt - Unknown respiratory virus killed pregnant doctor - alleged to be coronavirus - another hospitalized - in Dakahia govenorate January 17

    4)Dr. Yasser Barbary - deceased
    Egypt - Health denies infectious diseases in hospitals in Qaliubiya govenorate after the death of a doctor - investigation demanded by coalition of doctors - January 18


    also please see:

    Egypt - 16 cases of H1N1pdm09 and/or H1N5 (?) flu - Dakahlia governorate January 17

    Egypt - Media reports: Man,65, + 3 others? bird flu H5N1 cases at Mansoura Hospitals - Dakahlia governorate - January, 18 - MoH denies

    Egypt - Media: 2 H5N1 bird flu cases reported by health official in Port Said - 1 case reportedly transferred to Dakahalia governorate - Alert level increased in Port Said hospitals January 18

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    Re: Egypt - Unknown respiratory virus killed pregnant doctor - alleged to be coronavirus - another hospitalized - in Dakahia govenorate

    Ahawadvy: the death of a doctor Sinbillawain arteries as a result of stroke, sudden heart problems and pregnancy

    Saturday, January 18th, 2014 21:23

    General Omar denied Ahawadvy, Dakahlia governor, to be the death of the doctor "joke Ismail Mohammed," 27 years old, working loneliness health center in the village of Kafr El Mujahid Sinbillawain, was due to virus infection is unknown.

    The governor said that the doctor was pregnant at the thirty-seventh week and the cause of death due to poisoning in pregnancy and her sudden stroke one of the arteries of the heart, has been receiving hospital Sinbillawain and death occurs within minutes.

    He referred to the report of the World Health Organization, who visited the hospital, which confirmed that the deaths have nothing to do with any virus.

    Dr. Magdi Hijazi, Undersecretary of the Ministry of Health to maintain that it is not true also for the frequency in some news sites about the high number of invalids avian and swine virus or Corona hospital issued Mansoura to 16 people, stressing that the tests that have been a factor "Alnmarw" and the Ministry of Health confirmed the absence of any injury and that there is no hospital, only 3 cases infected with seasonal flu and lung infections and that many of these cases get daily infections and the intervention of the hospital and treated immediately.

    He added that the total number of bird flu cases that have appeared in Egypt during the past three years, was 3 cases only, and do not include any case in Dakahlia.

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      Re: Egypt - Unknown respiratory virus killed pregnant doctor - alleged to be coronavirus - another hospitalized - in Dakahia govenorate

      Luxor human rights organization calls on the Ministry of Health to be vigilant because of the proliferation of bacteria "mrsa" deadly
      January 19, 2014 - 12:42

      Appealed to the Justice and Development and the Ministry of Health in Luxor Aaltenbah on doctors to be vigilant in terms appeared deaths of three doctors in Dakahlia, and dangerous situation Mansoura university hospital, after being exposed to infection because they see it a virus or a bacteria deadly "mrsa".
      Bakri said Drder director of the organization that the doctor aware of all kinds of diseases and he has to take precautions from the methods of infection control.
      Dirdeiry said, "The microbes have the ability to switch on and renewal periods, and it featured a variety of microbes and various diseases such as mad cow disease, bird flu, swine, SARS, and the corona."
      Previously that the Organization of Justice and Development in Luxor appealed to the Ministry of Health of the outbreak of coronavirus.
      It is expected that a number of doctors are infected with the virus hospitals that led to the death of three doctors, a justification that a lot of them not to apply the methods and ways to combat infection.
      He said, "Drder" that the cause of death of doctors, according to information obtained due to the bacteria "MRSA" It staphylococcus aureus resistance to the drug Walmsley CM, adding that if she hit the respiratory tract can not resist the flesh.

      He said: "physicians must abide by standard methods and ways to fight infection from wearing the catcher, and the glove during the detection of patients and other methods."
      He appealed to the Supreme Council of the Organization of the Justice and Development for Human Rights and the Ministry of Health must take legal action in case of non-implementation of the methods of infection control standard, other hospitals are not qualified to drive, in addition to poor planning within hospitals, resulting in non-implementation and application of standard methods for ways to combat the infection. "http://translate.google.com/translat...25D8%25B1.aspx

      direct link: http://massai.ahram.org.eg/News/5/13...4;ر.aspx
      Last edited by sharon sanders; January 19, 2014, 07:37 AM. Reason: added direct link
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        Re: Egypt - 4 doctors hospitalized including 3 dead from unknown/pneumonia/respiratory illnesses in last 3 weeks - Dakahlia and Qalyubia govenorates - January 18, 2014

        Apparently the WHO consultant in the area has said some influenza-like-illness (ILI) cases in Dakahalia are H1N1pdm09 and he is studying the reason for the increase in cases.


        3 deaths and 10 injuries in hospital new flu Mansoura .. Daily Bulletin and the evolution of cases increased after
        Hossam Zayed

        19-1-2014 | 12:22


        Dr Nasreddin Tantawi adviser WHO infectious diseases that there are 3 cases died among the 13 cases were infected with new flu h1n1, pointing out that there is an increase in injuries beginning of January, and it was starting to conduct a study to determine the cause of this increase, and that there are procedures that will be announced to reduce infection.

        This came during a conference of the Ministry of Health to declare procedures ministry after Constitution Day. He explained that the virus has become Tantawi seasonally, and increases in the winter season which is prevalent in America, Canada, Egypt and Jordan.

        He infects more owners of chronic diseases such as respiratory and immune pregnant women and children under two years and older.
        For its part, advised Dr. Maha Rabat and Secretary of Health and Population, the citizens not to exaggerate in relation to the disease, and that he will be issued a daily bulletin on the incidence of new developments and how to deal with it.http://translate.google.com/translat...%2F445269.aspx

        direct link: http://gate.ahram.org.eg/News/445269.aspx
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        • #5
          Re: Egypt - 4 doctors hospitalized including 3 dead from unknown/pneumonia/respiratory illnesses in last 3 weeks - Dakahlia and Qalyubia govenorates - January 18, 2014 - unconfirmed rpt:WHO adviser now on site in Mansoura, Dakahalia (January 19)

          Today's update -

          As to cases above:

          1) No further information.

          2) No further information.

          3) Governor of Dakahalia says she died from stroke & heart problems, possibly she is one of the 3 H1N1pdm09 deaths mentioned at a reported joint WHO/MoH news conference today.

          4) No further information.

          ---------------------

          WHO in Geneva is investigating the report of a local WHO/MoH news conference about this situation:

          FluTrackers.com ‏@FluTrackers 7h
          @WHO @WHOAFRO @HaertlG Can you confirm/deny Dr.Tantawi is on site in Mansoura investigating flu like illnesses?Port Said? Qaliubiya? Thx #fb

          Gregory Härtl ‏@HaertlG 31m
          .@FluTrackers @WHO @WHOAFRO #fb will check.

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          • #6
            Re: Egypt - 4 doctors hospitalized including 3 dead from unknown/pneumonia/respiratory illnesses in last 3 weeks - Dakahlia and Qalyubia govenorates - January 18, 2014 - unconfirmed rpt:WHO adviser now on site in Mansoura, Dakahalia (January 19)

            Minister of Health: No deaths or injuries were reported bird flu since may 2013. Qandil: Egypt free from 'CK'


            Dr. Maha denied Rabat, Minister of health, the death citizens infected with bird flu, noting that no cases of the virus A/H5N1 bird flu ' since last April, when the number was confirmed 4 cases in 2013, and suspicion of 284 other case, and the result was negative, the last case of woman 25 years of Sohag province, and died on 5 May. during the meeting of the High Commission for the flu on Monday, bringing together all the leaders of the Ministry of health to coordinate actions That must follow in the Government sector and university hospitals and the private sector for reporting influenza cases and review influenza surveillance systems, types and intensity at the provincial level and application of infection control systems. the Minister, explained that the Commission had decided that a number of immediate steps, including vaccination of health team, with 80,000 doses of seasonal influenza vaccination for high-risk groups of health professionals, take all preventive measures including activation of a working group to study and monitor the situation in Egypt, and activate surveillance for influenza and pneumonia in hospital Mansoura chest, sending samples to Labs alnamro 3 to confirm the diagnosis, and recheck the negative samples, and access to the DNA of the virus causing the disease and ensure the availability of all the supplies and medicines for the disease, and infection control procedures in hospitals and field study to determine the prevalence of influenza and pneumonia.





            http://gate.ahram.org.eg/News/445779.aspx

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            • #7
              Re: Egypt - 4 doctors hospitalized including 3 dead from unknown/pneumonia/respiratory illnesses in last 3 weeks - Dakahlia and Qalyubia govenorates - January 18, 2014 - unconfirmed rpt:WHO adviser now on site in Mansoura, Dakahalia (January 19)

              The Minister of Health denies any H5N1 since Spring 2013.

              The Minister of Health denies and H7N9, novel coronavirus cases ever.



              Health": the incidence of seasonal flu in Egypt does not exceed 3. 0%
              Monday, January 20, 2014 - 10:10
              D. Maha Rabat, Minister of Health

              Started Dana railway
              The Ministry of Health and Population, the proportion of cases of severe acute respiratory syndrome and pneumonia discovered and reported by hospitals nationwide, during the winter season 2013/2014, in the period from October 2013 until the first week of January 2014, comparable with the proportion of cases in the same time period of the season Winter 2012/2013 range between "0.2-0.3%" of the total number of undecided, and who appreciate by about 41 million hesitant to outpatient clinics and Alasnaqbal hospitals. added the statement issued by the ministry on Monday, that the types of influenza viruses common and most prevalent on the national level is the virus influenza A/H1N1pdm09, "formerly known as swine of bird, which became part of the types of seasonal influenza," 11.6%, followed by the seasonal influenza virus of type "A/H3" by 8.2%, then the seasonal influenza virus of type (FluB) 4.5% 0.0 , According to the results of laboratory test labs reference to the World Health Organization that there is no mutation of influenza viruses isolated in Egypt during the years 2009 to 2013 Omquaoma to Tamiflu so far.

              Regarding the bird flu in Egypt, explained the statement that he did not register any cases positive for the virus A/H5N1 Since last April, where it was confirmed number 4 cases in 2013 and is suspected in 284 another case, the result was negative, and another case of a woman aged 25 years from the province of Sohag, and died last May, and of the total cases of avian influenza A/H5N1 discovered since 2006, So far 173 positive cases were cured 110 cases and the deaths of 63 cases with a mortality rate of 36%, compared with 59% in other countries, and there are no mutations of influenza virus Omquaoma to Tamiflu.

              At the global level, the total human cases of bird flu virus A/H7N9 emerging so far 163 cases of state of China, including 50 deaths, including cases, the number of cases of Taipei and three cases of Hong Kong. According to reports by the World Health Organization, the total of confirmed cases in the world 177 confirmed cases in the laboratory, in addition to the 19 probable cases of them 74 deaths at a rate of death of the cases of 42%, while not detected any cases to date in Egypt,

              and the Ministry of Health to withdraw and examine samples of cases suspected, reaching a total of samples that have been tested since the onset of the disease at the end of 2012 so far (7108) sample and all results negative for the virus Koruna emerging.

              stressed Statement of Health on the epidemic situation of the spread of influenza virus in the Arab Republic of Egypt has eluded him significant changes to increase the numbers or types of viruses, and that the seasonal influenza virus A/H1N1pdm09 which is attributed to 67% of cases of respiratory severe, and the virus influenza A/H3 two types the dominant among the cases of flu-like cases of Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome, and the seasonal influenza virus A/H1N1pdm09 may cause some complications for patients with chronic diseases, and can be prevented by giving a taste of the seasonal influenza, especially for groups with risk, but does not any confirmed cases bird flu since April 2013, and is a stand-up epidemic of the disease closely because the disease and the duty to report to the bodies of the International Health, is also ongoing collaboration on it with veterinary services, as well as the exchange of information, expertise and resources between the coefficient of viruses, Ministry of Health and the coefficient of Animal Health Research in the field of mutations own genetic for avian influenza viruses. recommends the Ministry of Health following the protocol treatment of influenza in hospitals and who is spending using the drug Altammivlollviat age categories-risk "pregnant women, children less than five years, the elderly more than 65 years, the owners of chronic disease" by seeing your physician, as recommended by following procedures hygiene and wash your hands and cover your nose and mouth while coughing and sneezing and giving the flu vaccine to the categories of risk, as well as travelers to perform Umrah.

              http://www.youm7.com/News.asp?NewsID...3#.Ut0sbhAo7IU

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                Re: Egypt - 4 doctors hospitalized including 3 dead from unknown/pneumonia/respiratory illnesses in last 3 weeks - Dakahlia and Qalyubia govenorates - January 18, 2014 - unconfirmed rpt:WHO adviser now on site in Mansoura, Dakahalia (January 19)

                I think the door is probably shut on any further public disclosures about the deaths of the doctors. Apparently the democratic reforms in Egypt are not. Not hopeful since the Port Said provincial health department reversed itself on the H5N1 status of the case that was transferred last week to a known "bird flu" hospital in Dakahalia. So.....


                Egypt Says Twitter Post by Liberal Was Crime

                By DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK
                JAN. 19, 2014


                CAIRO — A prosecutor on Sunday charged one of Egypt’s most prominent liberal intellectuals with insulting the judiciary because he posted a message on Twitter criticizing a court ruling against three American nonprofits that promote democracy.

                more...

                http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/20/wo...was-crime.html

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                • #9
                  Re: Egypt - 4 doctors hospitalized including 3 dead from unknown/pneumonia/respiratory illnesses in last 3 weeks - Dakahlia and Qalyubia govenorates - January 18, 2014 - unconfirmed rpt:WHO adviser now on site in Mansoura, Dakahalia (January 19)

                  There is a direct correlation between the human rights record of a country and their commitment to public health. We may never know the outcome of any investigation or "discussion" about the recent (infectious?) deaths of several doctors as called for by the doctor's union. It is estimated that the Egyptian military junta may have killed 1000 protesters in recent months:

                  Human Rights Watch ‏@hrw 13m
                  Egypt: military overthrow of its predecessor led to intensified oppression & the worst mass killing in the country's recent history #WR2014

                  Human Rights Watch ‏@hrw 14m
                  In Egypt, both the Muslim Brotherhood govt & the military-dominated govt ignored proper limits on power #WR2014

                  Human Rights Watch ‏@hrw 14m
                  Another major trend in 2013, notable number of govts paid lip service to democracy while mocking rights central to democratic rule #WR2014


                  Since the military took the rule of Egypt in 2011 the reporting of disease status there has decreased to almost zero.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Egypt - 4 doctors hospitalized including 3 dead from unknown/pneumonia/respiratory illnesses in last 3 weeks - Dakahlia and Qalyubia govenorates - January 18, 2014 - unconfirmed rpt:WHO adviser now on site in Mansoura, Dakahalia (January 19)

                    There is a direct correlation between the human rights record of a country and their commitment to human rights. We may never know the outcome of any investigation or "discussion" as called for by the doctor's union:

                    Human Rights Watch ‏@hrw 13m
                    Egypt: military overthrow of its predecessor led to intensified oppression & the worst mass killing in the country's recent history #WR2014

                    Human Rights Watch ‏@hrw 14m
                    In Egypt, both the Muslim Brotherhood govt & the military-dominated govt ignored proper limits on power #WR2014

                    Human Rights Watch ‏@hrw 14m
                    Another major trend in 2013, notable number of govts paid lip service to democracy while mocking rights central to democratic rule #WR2014


                    It is estimated that the Egyptian military junta may have killed 1000 protesters in recent months. Since the military took the rule of Egypt in 2011 the reporting of disease status there has decreased to almost zero.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Egypt - 4 doctors hospitalized including 3 dead from unknown/pneumonia/respiratory illnesses in last 3 weeks - Dakahlia and Qalyubia govenorates - January 18, 2014 - unconfirmed rpt:WHO adviser now on site in Mansoura, Dakahalia (January 19)

                      Egypt is without any doubt another example of an 'empty belly democracy': formal elections are performed but people have not the basic human, social and economic rights known in the old western (most ruined) democracies.

                      Other examples of such kind of faulty systems are Iraq, Afghanistan, most of former USSR states, certain eastern European countries, and these regions are usually at the borders of major Powers influence zones (ie Russia/NATO, Russia/China, China/US, US/C America, etc.)

                      Human lives in these regions are quite expendable, no respect paid to frails, elderly people, children, women, diseased...

                      But big media outlets continue to call them DEMOCRACIES.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Egypt - 4 doctors hospitalized including 3 dead from unknown/pneumonia/respiratory illnesses in last 3 weeks - Dakahlia and Qalyubia govenorates - January 18, 2014 - unconfirmed rpt:WHO adviser now on site in Mansoura, Dakahalia (January 19)

                        Sudden delegation of 'World health Organization' at Sadr Hospital in Mansoura aka Mansoura Chest Hospital

                        A delegation from the World Health Organization and the Ministry of Health to visit sudden Sadr hospital in Al Mansoura to inspect The case of the hospital, truth about the increasing numbers of patients with seasonal flu H1n1 Previously, which has been known as swine flu. The delegation visited sections of isolation and receiving intensive care and got the smear samples from the patients. The Al-Sadr hospital received nearly 40 suspected case of the disease, while medical sources confirmed that The hospital holds 17 of the results of analyzes samples central labs of the Ministry of Health, It is infected with seasonal flu H1n1, as well as the deaths of three previous cases of the same disease. For his part, Dr. Majdi Hijazi, the Under-Secretary of the Ministry of Health, Dakahlia 16 the case went out of the hospital last Sunday after improving from the disease. Explaining that the delegation of the Ministry of Health to visit routine Sadr hospital and a number of hospitals in the province. He pointed out that the rate of infection with seasonal flu natural in such a time of the year.


                        http://almesryoon.com/%D9%82%D8%A8%D...88%D8%B1%D8%A9
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                          Re: Egypt - 4 doctors hospitalized including 3 dead from unknown/pneumonia/respiratory illnesses in last 3 weeks - Dakahlia and Qalyubia govenorates - January 18, 2014 - unconfirmed rpt:WHO adviser now on site in Mansoura, Dakahalia (January 19)

                          Health doctors demanding the formation of a fact-finding committee after the emergence of the sixth case of pneumonia infected

                          Saturday 01/25/2014 - 13:19
                          Doctors demanding health
                          Authenticity Mohammed

                          Demanded the General Union of Egyptian Medical and Health Zaraarah the formation of a fact-finding committee after the emergence of the sixth case of severe acute respiratory syndrome infected a Dr. Ahmed Ahawadvy

                          The union called the need to form a committee to monitor and follow up the cause of these cases for fear of being an introduction to the epidemic of the disease .
                          She pointed out that the union has been moved Alchudavy doctor Ahmed (31 years old ) for intensive care Aini Palace , after suffering from pneumonia , and deteriorate quickly and it needs to ventilatory , continued the case and helped a rapid transit . D . Ayman Salem , Wed. Mohammed voile member of the Eastern Medical Association , and is still in the care of a colleague . D . Sharif Mukhtar Palace Aini , pointing out that the case is considered Ahawadvy sixth case during the month that catch pneumonia rapidly deteriorating , or at least the sixth case , which is up to the union flag in such a short period

                          The union has warned doctors to be these cases is an introduction to the epidemic must be drawn to him .

                          She stressed the importance of doctors' syndicate rapid response to its previous request to form the Ministry of Health of the fact-finding committee , monitor and follow up and determine the cause of such situations recurring .http://www.el-balad.com/794985
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                            Re: Egypt - 4 doctors hospitalized including 3 dead from unknown/pneumonia/respiratory illnesses in last 3 weeks - Dakahlia and Qalyubia govenorates - January 18, 2014 - unconfirmed rpt:WHO adviser now on site in Mansoura, Dakahalia (January 19)

                            <table><tbody><tr><td class="nav" align="center">Doctors demanding health: a fact-finding committee .. To prevent the spread of respiratory tract infection
                            </td></tr><tr><td class="auther" align="right"> Khaled Youssef wrote:
                            </td></tr><tr><td align="right"> Demanded the General Union of Physicians for fact-finding committee of Health to discuss the problem of transmission of respiratory tract infection, doctors and citizens after a period of increased and has become a dangerous phenomenon has an indicator to fear serious infection spread and impact.
                            The union demanded the implementation of the rules of infection control, which is mostly just the rules of the paper is far from implementation, pointing to the Declaration of Women's Hospital campus in Alexandria a few days ago due to lack of "Gloves" disclosure.
                            Demanded the transfer of any doctor suffering from pneumonia infection to a hospital excellent government chosen by the people as a hospital doctor "kind Elfrinswe Palace - or Ain Shams Specialist - or Nasser Institute ..."
                            And disbursement of compensation and pension exceptional for any doctor to die of infection as a result of the workshop will be held between professors specializing in the field of chest diseases and intensive care and infection control to visualize scientific problem and concrete proposals to resolve. http://translate.google.com/translat...day%2Ffpage%2F
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                              Re: Egypt - 5 or 6 doctors hospitalized including 3 dead from unknown/pneumonia/respiratory illnesses in last 3 weeks - Dakahlia and Qalyubia govenorates - January 18, 2014 - unconfirmed rpt:WHO adviser now on site in Mansoura, Dakahalia (January 19)

                              Update:

                              According to our records:


                              1)Dr. Ahmed Abdullatif - deceased
                              Egypt - Ministry of Health closes private hospital after death of a doctor from pneumonia - negligence alleged - Banha, Qalyubia governorate - December 28

                              2)Dr. Osama (last name assumed to be Rashid) - hospitalized on respirator
                              Egypt - Doctor, 37, hospitalized suspected novel coronavirus - tests pending - Mansoura, Dakahlia govenorate - January 8

                              3)Dr. Doaa Ahmed Ismail - deceased
                              Egypt - Unknown respiratory virus killed pregnant doctor - alleged to be coronavirus - another hospitalized - in Dakahia govenorate January 17

                              4)Dr. Yasser Barbary - deceased
                              Egypt - Health denies infectious diseases in hospitals in Qaliubiya govenorate after the death of a doctor - investigation demanded by coalition of doctors - January 18

                              5)Dr. Ahmed Ahawadvy - hospitalized on respirator in Cairo
                              http://www.flutrackers.com/forum/sho...0&postcount=13 - January (presumed) 23

                              There is a reference to a 6th doctor seriously ill with a respiratory illness but I do not have that reference at this time.

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