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  • #61
    Re: Canada - Avian flu found in PEI (H5)

    I give up for now, being totally confused.Disagreement among experts is,I suspect,entirely wholesome.But something here is discordant.Something jarrs.Something seems wrong.What is wrong?We need to know.

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    • #62
      Re: Canada - Avian flu found in PEI (H5)

      Originally posted by Mingus
      If this is the Quingai strain, outbreak will pop up all over the atlantic provinces and in eastern Qu?bec very soon.

      In Maine maybe also... time will tell.
      Mingus, Canada has acknlowledge that they have positive PCR H5 data. The PCR was done on PEI. If PCR was done, wouldn't the sequence of the insert be known? Wouldn't the primers flank the HA cleavage site?

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      • #63
        Re: Canada - Avian flu found in PEI (H5)

        The test done in PEI was PCR test ?

        If so, It sould be sequenced right away for sure!

        I was under the impression that it was a basic serological test, maybe I read too fast...

        Do you have link or quote that give us detail on the test done in PEI ?

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        • #64
          Re: PCR Insert Contains Key H5 Sequence from Dead PEI Goose

          Originally posted by niman
          Using polymerase chain reaction or PCR testing, the scientists searched for tiny bits of genetic material from flu viruses. They spotted enough to declare that they had found an influenza A virus of the H5 subtype.

          `They found a little piece that matched the H5, enough of a little piece to say it's H5. However, they can't tell if the virus is alive or not,'' Bosse says.

          But there wasn't sufficient material to tell if it was highly pathogenic or a virus of low pathogenicity, or what the neuraminidase _ the N in a flu virus's name _ subtype was.
          Ok you're right they have positive H5 PCR data. And they haved sequenced it...

          This little fragment must be published, the answer is there...

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          • #65
            Re: PCR Insert Contains Key H5 Sequence from Dead PEI Goose

            Originally posted by Mingus
            Ok you're right they have positive H5 PCR data. And they haved sequenced it...

            This little fragment must be published, the answer is there...
            Mingus, They have the sequence, which is why they are trying to bury the H5N1 in Winnipeg.

            I have called the agencies involved. No one will say who has the sequence and when it will be released.

            It is a bunch of buck passing (and there is NO OIE report, even though the have PCR confirmed H5, and H5 reporting in a dead goose on a farm is MANDATORY).

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            • #66
              Re: Canada - Avian flu found in PEI (H5)

              22 June 2006
              Foreign Scientists in U.S. Learn Bird Flu Testing Techniques

              http://usinfo.state.gov/xarchives/di...retrop0.768429

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              Absolutely no comment from me on this one.<o =""></o>

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              • #67
                Re: Canada - Avian flu found in PEI (H5)

                THE PARTICIPANTS

                Animal health specialists participating in the June 19-23 workshop represent Argentina, Brazil, Burkina Faso, Burma, Cote d'Ivoire, Democratic Republic of Congo, Dominican Republic, Indonesia, Lebanon, Libya, Mexico, Mozambique, Oman, Pakistan, Romania, Sudan, Taiwan, Uganda and Uruguay.
                No one from Winnipeg ?

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                • #68
                  Re: Canada - Avian flu found in PEI (H5)

                  Originally posted by Mingus
                  No one from Winnipeg ?

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                  • #69
                    Re: Canada - Avian flu found in PEI (H5)

                    Latest Information - July 5, 2006
                    • Testing by Canada?s avian influenza (AI) reference laboratory in Winnipeg of birds from a small backyard flock in western Prince Edward Island has been completed with no evidence of H5 avian influenza virus found in the birds. Disease control measures had been implemented on and around the premises which was home to the flock on June 16, 2006 after preliminary testing of samples from one gosling found evidence of an H5 virus.
                    • Samples from the flock were sent to the Winnipeg lab for confirmatory testing consistent with Canada?s procedures for preliminary findings of H5/H7 <ACRONYM title="avian influenza">AI</ACRONYM> virus in poultry. All birds tested negative on serological and virological tests. Attempts to grow virus from samples from the gosling found no further evidence of virus. The testing is now complete. A quarantine which was placed on the premises on June 16 was formally released on July 5.
                    http://www.inspection.gc.ca/english/...tuatione.shtml

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                    • #70
                      Re: Canada - Avian flu found in PEI (H5)

                      Thanks Dr. Niman.

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                      • #71
                        Re: Canada - Avian flu found in PEI (H5)

                        Originally posted by Commonground
                        Thanks Dr. Niman.
                        This was not unexpected, but is not reality based.

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                        • #72
                          Re: Canada - Avian flu found in PEI (H5)

                          I agree. I wasn't even bothering to search out the "final" results....end of that chapter......for now.

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