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  • #31
    China's Wuhan toll revised to include another 1,290 COVID-19 deaths: https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/china-s...aths-1.4900233

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    • #32
      Coronavirus study points to vast number of cases under the radar in China
      • Researchers in Hong Kong find that Covid-19 definitions make big differences to the pandemic’s bigger picture
      • Mainland China might have had four times as many infections as official total if broader criteria used, team says

      Josephine Ma
      Published: 7:00am, 23 Apr, 2020

      China’s official tally of coronavirus cases could have quadrupled in mid-February if one broader system for classifying confirmed patients had been used from the outset of the pandemic, according to researchers at the University of Hong Kong.

      In a study published in the medical journal The Lancet on Tuesday, the researchers said China might have had 232,000 confirmed cases – rather than the official total of about 55,000 – by February 20 if a revised definition adopted earlier in the month had been applied throughout.


      “We estimated that there were at least 232,000 infections in the first epidemic wave of Covid-19 in mainland China,” they said, referring to the disease caused by the coronavirus.

      “The true number of infections could still be higher than that currently estimated considering the possibility of under-detection of some infections, particularly those that were mild and asymptomatic, even under the broadest case definitions.”...https://www.scmp.com/print/news/chin...er-radar-china
      CSI:WORLD http://swineflumagazine.blogspot.com/

      treyfish2004@yahoo.com

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Treyfish View Post
        Coronavirus study points to vast number of cases under the radar in China
        • Researchers in Hong Kong find that Covid-19 definitions make big differences to the pandemic’s bigger picture
        • Mainland China might have had four times as many infections as official total if broader criteria used, team says

        Josephine Ma
        Published: 7:00am, 23 Apr, 2020

        China’s official tally of coronavirus cases could have quadrupled in mid-February if one broader system for classifying confirmed patients had been used from the outset of the pandemic, according to researchers at the University of Hong Kong.

        In a study published in the medical journal The Lancet on Tuesday, the researchers said China might have had 232,000 confirmed cases – rather than the official total of about 55,000 – by February 20 if a revised definition adopted earlier in the month had been applied throughout.


        “We estimated that there were at least 232,000 infections in the first epidemic wave of Covid-19 in mainland China,” they said, referring to the disease caused by the coronavirus.

        “The true number of infections could still be higher than that currently estimated considering the possibility of under-detection of some infections, particularly those that were mild and asymptomatic, even under the broadest case definitions.”...https://www.scmp.com/print/news/chin...er-radar-china
        Here is the study link:

        https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...089-X/fulltext

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        • #34
          Coronvirus: Europe 'wary of confronting China over deaths'

          By Gordon CoreraSecurity correspondent
          • 3 hours ago
          • China's real casualty figure is believed by some to be much higher than officials there say
          China is continuing to under-report the true levels of deaths from Covid-19, national security officials in London and Washington believe.

          But European officials are wary about directly challenging China over the figures, sources told the BBC. That concern also extends to confronting Beijing over an information campaign to improve its standing and distract from blame in the crisis.


          China has denied allegations of a cover up, saying it has been transparent about its efforts to battle the virus.

          On 17 April, officials in Wuhan, t
          ...https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-52404612
          CSI:WORLD http://swineflumagazine.blogspot.com/

          treyfish2004@yahoo.com

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          • #35
            |Apr 23, 2020,12:12pm EDT
            China’s Early Coronavirus Cases May Have Been Four Times Higher Than Official Tally, New Study Suggests


            Marley Coyne
            Forbes Staff

            Updated Apr 23, 2020, 04:47pm EDT TOPLINE

            China reported approximately 55,000 coronavirus cases at the height of the country’s first wave in late February, but, according to a new study by researchers at the University of Hong Kong, the actual toll may be closer to 232,000, a finding that furthers evidence that China underreported its caseload.

            Between January 15, 2020, and March 3, 2020, China issued seven different benchmarks that defined a coronavirus case, a moving target found to have a “substantial effect” on early case numbers, according to the researchers.

            Initially very narrow, each of the first four definitions increased the scope of people considered infected, and had the fifth definition been used from the outset, there would have been four times as many cases reported by February 20, 2020, the study estimates.

            The researchers were unable to collect necessary data after February 20 and therefore could not examine the effects of the sixth and seventh versions on estimated case count.


            The data comes as tension between the United States and China over the latter’s handling of the virus continues to escalate, with the U.S. casting skepticism over China’s official case numbers and the country’s handling of the crisis in its early stages, including communicating the risk to the rest of the world....https://www.forbes.com/sites/marleyc.../#413100d53a18
            CSI:WORLD http://swineflumagazine.blogspot.com/

            treyfish2004@yahoo.com

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            • #36
              ?????

              I do not know the bias (if any) of this media.

              A list with 640k cases - one on each line?



              Leaked Chinese Virus Database Covers 230 Cities, 640,000 Updates

              New information may offer insight into the honesty of China’s coronavirus numbers.

              BY ISAAC STONE FISH, MARIA KROL SINCLAIR | MAY 12, 2020, 8:32 PM

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              While not fully comprehensive, the data is incredibly rich: There are more than 640,000 updates of information, covering at least 230 cities—in other words, 640,000 rows purporting to show the number of cases in a specific location at the time the data was gathered. Each update includes the latitude, longitude, and “confirmed” number of cases at the location, for dates ranging from early February to late April.

              https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/05/12...-number-cases/

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              • #37
                Source: https://www.news-medical.net/news/20...-in-China.aspx

                Cremation numbers reveal possible suppression of true COVID-19 data in China
                Dr. Liji Thomas, MDBy Dr. Liji Thomas, MDJun 8 2020

                A potentially explosive new study published on the preprint server medRxiv* in June 2020 suggests that the official Chinese statistics on COVID-19 cases or mortality are neither reliable nor credible. If true, such unreliable data during a crucial period of the pandemic in February and March 2020 could have seriously skewed the response and preparation of the rest of the world and altered the future course of the viral pneumonic illness.

                The ongoing pandemic of COVID-19 has taken hundreds of thousands of lives and sickened over 7 million people all over the world in just over five months. Originating in China's Wuhan city, it has rapidly and extensively spread to over 188 countries and territories...

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Shiloh View Post
                  Source: https://www.news-medical.net/news/20...-in-China.aspx

                  Cremation numbers reveal possible suppression of true COVID-19 data in China
                  Dr. Liji Thomas, MDBy Dr. Liji Thomas, MDJun 8 2020

                  A potentially explosive new study published on the preprint server medRxiv* in June 2020 suggests that the official Chinese statistics on COVID-19 cases or mortality are neither reliable nor credible. If true, such unreliable data during a crucial period of the pandemic in February and March 2020 could have seriously skewed the response and preparation of the rest of the world and altered the future course of the viral pneumonic illness.

                  The ongoing pandemic of COVID-19 has taken hundreds of thousands of lives and sickened over 7 million people all over the world in just over five months. Originating in China's Wuhan city, it has rapidly and extensively spread to over 188 countries and territories...
                  Cremation based estimates suggest significant under- and delayed reporting of COVID-19 epidemic data in Wuhan and China

                  View ORCID ProfileMai He, Li Li, Louis P Dehner, View ORCID ProfileLucia Dunn
                  doi: https://doi.org/10.1101/2020.05.28.20116012
                  This article is a preprint and has not been certified by peer review [what does this mean?]. It reports new medical research that has yet to be evaluated and so should not be used to guide clinical practice.Abstract


                  Background: Epidemiological data provide important information for decision making. COVID-19 statistics from China fall outside of recognized and accepted medical norms. As the epicenter of the COVID-19 initial outbreak, the epidemiological information from Wuhan affects the response and preparation of other parts of China and rest of the world. Here we estimated the incidence, death and starting time of the COVID-19 outbreak in Wuhan and China based on medical literature from China, official and non-official Chinese data sources. Methods: Data sources included literature on COVID-19 in China, official Chinese government figures, state-run and non state-run media reports. Our estimates are based on investigative media reports of crematory operations in Wuhan, which is considered as a common data end point to life. A range of estimates is presented by an exponential growth rate model from lockdown (Jan 23,2020) until the intervention started to show effects, which was estimated 14.5 days after lockdown. Results: For the cumulative infections and total deaths, under different assumptions of death rates (from 2.5% to 10%) and doubling time 6.4 days, the estimates projected on February 7, 2020 in Wuhan range from 305,000 to 1,272,000 for infections and from 6,811 to 7,223 for deaths - on the order of at least 10 times the official figures (13,603 and 545). The implied starting time of the outbreak is October 2019. Under the assumption of the official 3.14% death rate and doubling time of 2.54 days (which was derived based on Chinese official data), the infection cases reached 2.2 million on February 7. The estimates of cumulative deaths, based on both funeral urns distribution and continuous full capacity operation of cremation services up to March 23, 2020, give results around 36,000, more than 10 times of the official death toll of 2,524. Conclusions: Our study indicates a significant under-reporting in Chinese official data on the COVID-19 epidemic in Wuhan. The magnitude of discrepancy between our estimates based on cremation related data and Chinese official figures in early February, the critical time for response to the COVID-19 pandemic, suggests the need to reevaluate official statistics from China and consider all available and reasonable data sources for a better understanding of the COVID-19 pandemic.

                  ...
                  https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....28.20116012v2
                  "Safety and security don't just happen, they are the result of collective consensus and public investment. We owe our children, the most vulnerable citizens in our society, a life free of violence and fear."
                  -Nelson Mandela

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                  • #39

                    Wuhan’s Covid-19 cases may have been 10 times higher: Study


                    About 4.4% of those tested were found to have specific antibodies that can fight off the pathogen that causes Covid-19, indicating they were infected sometime in the past, according to a serological survey of more than 34,000 people conducted in April by the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention
                    • December 30, 2020, 07:29 IST

                    About 4.4% of those tested were found to have specific antibodies that can fight off the pathogen that causes Covid-19, indicating they were infected sometime in the past, according to a serological survey of more than 34,000 people conducted in April by the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention.


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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Pathfinder View Post
                      WHO Director-General's opening remarks at the media briefing – 21 December 2022

                      21 December 2022
                      ...

                      Certainly, we are in a much better place with the pandemic than we were a year ago, when we were in the early stages of the Omicron wave, with rapidly increasing cases and deaths.

                      But since the peak at the end of January, the number of weekly reported COVID-19 deaths has dropped almost 90%.

                      However, there are still too many uncertainties and gaps for us to say the pandemic is over:

                      Gaps in surveillance, testing and sequencing mean we do not understand well enough how the virus is changing;

                      Gaps in vaccination mean that millions of people – especially health workers and older people – remain at high-risk of severe disease and death;

                      Gaps in treatment mean people are dying needlessly;

                      Gaps in health systems leave them unable to cope with surges in patients with COVID-19, flu and other diseases;

                      Gaps in our understanding of post-COVID-19 condition mean we do not understand how best to treat people suffering with the long-term consequences of infection;

                      And gaps in our understanding of how this pandemic began compromise our ability to prevent future pandemics.

                      We continue to call on China to share the data and conduct the studies we have requested, and which we continue to request.

                      As I have said many times before, all hypotheses about the origins of this pandemic remain on the table.

                      At the same time, WHO is very concerned over the evolving situation in China, with increasing reports of severe disease.

                      In order to make a comprehensive risk assessment of the situation on the ground, WHO needs more detailed information on disease severity, hospital admissions and requirements for ICU support.


                      WHO is supporting China to focus its efforts on vaccinating people at the highest risk across the country, and we continue to offer our support for clinical care and protecting its health system.

                      ===

                      https://www.who.int/news-room/speech...-december-2022
                      hat tip Michael Coston for the tip on the death reduction number today.



                      I do not know what the WHO is talking about!?!?

                      China REDUCED their death count by one today. How can China possibly have severe COVID-19 disease if only 8 deaths have been announced since December 1 (in a country with over 1.4 billion people)? Obviously something is amiss.

                      Here is the government report. My bolding:




                      The latest situation of the novel coronavirus pneumonia as of 24:00 on December 20


                      Release time: 2022-12-21


                      From 00:00 to 24:00 on December 20, 31 provinces (autonomous regions, municipalities directly under the central government) and the Xinjiang Production and Construction Corps reported 3,101 new confirmed cases. Among them, 52 were imported cases (18 in Guangdong, 17 in Sichuan, 4 in Heilongjiang, 4 in Shanghai, 4 in Shandong, 3 in Liaoning, 1 in Chongqing, and 1 in Gansu); 3,049 local cases (1,171 in Guangdong, 1 in Beijing) 544 cases, 245 cases in Jiangxi, 204 cases in Chongqing, 184 cases in Fujian, 127 cases in Yunnan, 119 cases in Hunan, 108 cases in Shanghai, 86 cases in Sichuan, 59 cases in Tianjin, 37 cases in Zhejiang, 36 cases in Henan, 32 cases in Shanxi, and 22 cases in Shaanxi , 17 cases in Shandong, 16 cases in Guizhou, 15 cases in Hebei, 7 cases in Jiangsu, 6 cases in Heilongjiang, 5 cases in Qinghai, 4 cases in Guangxi, 3 cases in Inner Mongolia, and 2 cases in Hainan). There were no new deaths. There were 12 new suspected cases, all local cases (all in Shanghai).
                      There were 1,953 newly cured and discharged cases on that day , including 44 imported cases and 1,909 local cases (993 in Guangdong, 360 in Beijing, 127 in Yunnan, 76 in Chongqing, 75 in Fujian, 72 in Sichuan, 30 in Henan, and 30 in Guizhou. 30 cases, 21 cases in Hubei, 19 cases in Shaanxi, 15 cases in Liaoning, 13 cases in Hainan, 12 cases in Heilongjiang, 10 cases in Shanghai, 10 cases in Zhejiang, 9 cases in Shandong, 8 cases in Inner Mongolia, 7 cases in Jiangsu, 6 cases in Hebei, and 5 cases in Shanxi , 5 cases in Hunan, 3 cases in Tianjin, 1 case in Anhui, 1 case in Guangxi, and 1 case in Qinghai), 54,918 close contacts were released from medical observation, and the number of severe cases increased by 53 from the previous day.
                      There are 475 confirmed cases imported from abroad (no severe cases), and no existing suspected cases. A total of 28,760 confirmed cases, a total of 28,285 cured and discharged cases, and no deaths.
                      As of 24:00 on December 20, according to reports from 31 provinces (autonomous regions, municipalities directly under the Central Government) and the Xinjiang Production and Construction Corps, there were 37,111 confirmed cases (including 329 severe cases), a total of 343,855 cured and discharged cases, and a total of 5,241 deaths. * , a total of 386,276 confirmed cases have been reported , and there are 31 suspected cases. A total of 15,345,209 close contacts have been traced, and 252,610 close contacts are still under medical observation.
                      A total of 9,096,294 confirmed cases have been reported from Hong Kong, Macao and Taiwan . Among them, there were 489,096 cases in Hong Kong Special Administrative Region (106,785 cases were discharged, 11,243 deaths), 1,659 cases in Macau Special Administrative Region (1,270 cases were discharged, 16 deaths), and 8,605,539 cases in Taiwan (13,742 cases were discharged, 14,931 deaths).
                      Remarks: * Beijing reduced 1 case


                      http://www.nhc.gov.cn/xcs/yqtb/20221...e7c9758a.shtml

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                      • sharon sanders
                        sharon sanders commented
                        Editing a comment
                        Some things never change. 3 years later....same b.s. from China about their cases/deaths.

                    • #41
                      Afaik, the official Chinese stance is that dying with Covid does not imply dying from Covid, unless there are absolutely no other morbidities detected.
                      That may help understand how they rationalize these numbers.

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                      • #42
                        Originally posted by etudiant View Post
                        Afaik, the official Chinese stance is that dying with Covid does not imply dying from Covid, unless there are absolutely no other morbidities detected.
                        That may help understand how they rationalize these numbers.
                        Please see:

                        China: NHC - Only Respiratory Failure Due to COVID to Be Counted As A COVID Death

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                        • #43

                          December 22, 20226:28 AM EST
                          Last Updated 2 hours ago


                          China COVID deaths probably running above 5,000 per day - UK research firm Airfinity

                          Reuters

                          BEIJING, Dec 22 (Reuters) - More than 5,000 people are probably dying each day from COVID-19 in China, health data firm Airfinity estimated, offering a dramatic contrast to official data from Beijing on the country's current outbreak.

                          The UK-based firm said it had used modelling based on regional Chinese data to produce figures that also put current daily infections in the country at above a million.

                          Its estimates were "in stark contrast to the official data which is reporting 1,800 cases and only seven official deaths over the past week," it said in a statement.

                          more...








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                          • #44

                            https://wp.m.163.com/163/page/news/v..._nw_=1&_anw_=1
                            http://www.hnhx.gov.cn/portal/ztzl/e...501index_1.htm


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                            The last week of NHC reports:
                            Last edited by gsgs; December 27, 2022, 07:55 AM. Reason: added Dec.26 numbers
                            I'm interested in expert panflu damage estimates
                            my current links: http://bit.ly/hFI7H ILI-charts: http://bit.ly/CcRgT

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                            • #45

                              From now on, daily epidemic information will no longer be released, and relevant epidemic information
                              will be released by the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention for reference and research.

                              I find them with keyword search : 时新型冠状病毒感染疫情最新情况
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                              I'm interested in expert panflu damage estimates
                              my current links: http://bit.ly/hFI7H ILI-charts: http://bit.ly/CcRgT

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