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  • #46
    Hong Kong government says 3 travelers from Wuhan have been admitted with pneumonia symptoms, but two have been released.

    Government will also start regular daily media updates concerning this situation.

    https://news.rthk.hk/rthk/en/compone...9-20200102.htm

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    The Hospital Authority said it had notified the government of three cases in which it treated patients for pneumonia symptoms after visiting Wuhan recently.

    The Authority said a female patient in Tuen Mun Hospital and a male teenager in Tai Po Nethersole Hospital have since been discharged, but a woman is still being treated in Princess Margaret Hospital.

    The Health Secretary, Sophia Chan, told a news briefing late on Thursday that the three cases are not linked to the mysterious Sars-like disease in Wuhan, because the patients did not visit the seafood market that's believed to be the source of the virus.

    more at the above link
    Last edited by sharon sanders; January 2nd, 2020, 01:21 PM. Reason: typo

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    • #47
      Originally posted by penguinsix View Post
      Hong Kong government says 3 travelers from Wuhan have been admitted with pneumonia symptoms, but two have been released.

      Government will also start regular daily media updates concerning this situation.

      https://news.rthk.hk/rthk/en/compone...9-20200102.htm

      snip

      The Hospital Authority said it had notified the government of three cases in which it treated patients for pneumonia symptoms after visiting Wuhan recently.

      The Authority said a female patient in Tuen Mun Hospital and a male teenager in Tai Po Nethersole Hospital have since been discharged, but a woman is still being treated in Princess Margaret Hospital.

      The Health Secretary, Sophia Chan, told a news briefing late on Thursday that the three cases are not linked to the mysterious Sars-like disease in Wuhan, because the patients did not visit the seafood market that's believed to be the source of the virus.

      more at the above link
      Government holds inter-departmental meeting on cluster of pneumonia cases in Wuhan (with photo)
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      The Government today (January 2) held an inter-departmental meeting to examine the prevention measures adopted in response to the cluster of pneumonia cases detected in Wuhan, Hubei Province and to remind all relevant departments to heighten their vigilance and be well-prepared.

      Chairing the meeting, the Secretary for Food and Health, Professor Sophia Chan, noted that although no serious pneumonia case related to those in Wuhan has been detected in Hong Kong so far, the purpose of today's meeting is to let all relevant policy bureaux and government departments be well-prepared and make necessary arrangements. The Government will stay alert with a view to ensuring necessary measures be put in place as soon as possible whenever necessary.

      Professor Chan said that the Government had strengthened prevention and control measures in many aspects including enhancing health surveillance measures at all boundary control points, referring suspected cases to public hospitals for isolation and treatment. Also, the Hospital Authority (HA) and the Department of Health (DH) have already informed healthcare staff to stay alert.

      Policy bureaux, government departments and organisations attending today's meeting included the Education Bureau, the Transport and Housing Bureau, the Security Bureau, the Constitutional and Mainland Affairs Bureau, the DH, the HA, the Food and Environmental Hygiene Department, the Agriculture, Fisheries and Conservation Department, the Home Affairs Department, the Information Services Department, the Leisure and Cultural Services Department, the Social Welfare Department and the Tourism Commission.

      Measures that have already been taken by various departments include:

      Surveillance, prevention and control measures
      • already put in place surveillance, prevention and control measures, and remain vigilant and work closely with the World Health Organization and relevant health authorities to monitor the latest development;
      • closely monitor the latest situation of the cluster of pneumonia cases in Wuhan and update the surveillance criteria and testing strategies accordingly;
      • to address public concern and to increase transparency, the Government will daily announce the number of cases meeting enhanced surveillance;
      • strengthen port health measures. From January 3 onwards, additional thermal imaging systems will be put in place in the Hong Kong International Airport for checking body temperature of inbound travellers from Wuhan. For all boundary control points including Hong Kong West Kowloon Station of the Guangzhou-Shenzhen-Hong Kong Express Rail Link, fever patients with acute respiratory symptoms who had visited wet markets or seafood markets in Wuhan within 14 days prior to the onset of the illness will be immediately referred to public hospitals for isolation, treatment and follow-up. The MTR Corporation Limited, the Airport Authority, and the relevant airlines have been advised to enhance cleaning and disinfection measures of the incoming express trains and planes from Wuhan;
      • inform the HA about the cluster of pneumonia cases in Wuhan;
      • send letters to daytime service units of institutions and schools, urging them to strengthen personal and environmental hygiene measures;
      • strengthen the cleaning and maintain environmental hygiene of public facilities under the purview of all government departments; and
      • remind travellers to wear surgical masks and seek medical attention if they present with respiratory symptoms, and reveal their travel history to doctors.

      Alerting healthcare staff
      • HA has reminded frontline healthcare staff including those working in the 18 Chinese Medicine Centres for Training and Research to pay special attention to clinical information of suspected pneumonia patients, including the presentation of fever and acute respiratory illness, or pneumonia symptoms, who have visited wet markets and seafood markets in Wuhan within 14 days prior to the onset of illness;
      • send letters to all doctors and private hospitals including Chinese medicine practitioners, reminding them to pay attention and refer suspected cases;
      • if a suspected case is identified, frontline healthcare staff should send the patient to airborne infection isolation room for treatment with urgent laboratory investigation; and to inform the Centre for Health Protection (CHP) of the DH and the headquarters of HA; and
      • keep close communication with the CHP of the DH to monitor the development of the situation.
      Travel advice

      The public should take heed of the preventive measures below when travelling outside Hong Kong:
      • avoid touching poultry/birds or their droppings;
      • avoid visiting wet markets, live poultry markets or farms;
      • avoid making close contact with patients, especially those with symptoms of acute respiratory infections;
      • adhere to food safety and hygiene rules such as avoiding consuming raw or undercooked animal products, including milk, eggs and meat, or foods which may be contaminated by animal secretions, excretions (such as urine) or contaminated products, unless they have been properly cooked, washed or peeled;
      • if feeling unwell when outside Hong Kong, especially if having a fever or cough, wear a surgical mask, inform the hotel staff or tour escort and seek medical advice at once; and
      • after returning to Hong Kong, consult a doctor promptly if having a fever or other symptoms, inform the doctor of recent travel history and wear a surgical mask to help prevent spread of the disease.

      Health advice

      To prevent pneumonia and respiratory tract infection, members of the public should maintain good personal and environmental hygiene. They are advised to:
      • perform hand hygiene frequently, especially before touching the mouth, nose or eyes; after touching public installations such as handrails or door knobs; or when hands are contaminated by respiratory secretion after coughing or sneezing;
      • wash hands with liquid soap and water, and rub for at least 20 seconds. Then rinse with water and dry with a disposable paper towel or hand dryer. If hand washing facilities are not available, or when hands are not visibly soiled, hand hygiene with 70 to 80 per cent alcohol-based handrub is an effective alternative;
      • cover your mouth and nose with tissue paper when sneezing or coughing. Dispose of soiled tissues into a lidded rubbish bin, then wash hands thoroughly; and
      • when having respiratory symptoms, wear a surgical mask, refrain from work or attending class at school, avoid going to crowded places and seek medical advice promptly.


      Ends/Thursday, January 2, 2020
      Issued at HKT 23:56

      https://www.info.gov.hk/gia/general/...0010200831.htm

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      • #48
        Originally posted by sharon sanders View Post
        There is nothing about the person who travelled from Wuhan on the Hong Kong Centre for Health Protection site yet. Here is the link for people to watch:

        https://www.chp.gov.hk/en/index.html
        FWIW the CHP website is slow to update. You will often find stories first on the main HK government news site before it hits the CHP site.

        https://www.news.gov.hk/eng/index.html

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        • #49
          Translation Google

          Experts suspect Wuhan unknown pneumonia or new coronavirus

          2020-01-03 10:30 Central News Agency, Hong Kong, 3rd

          Xu Shuchang, Chair Professor of Respiratory Medicine at the Chinese University of Hong Kong School of Medicine, said in the morning that some mainland scholars suspect that the recent unidentified pneumonia in Wuhan may involve a new coronavirus.

          According to a report from Commercial Radio today, Xu Shuchang said on the radio program that Hong Kong has limited information on the unknown pneumonia outbreak in Wuhan, but quoted a professor at Peking University as saying that the related cases were suspected of involving new coronavirus.

          But he said it still takes time to understand the situation and said there was no sign of the virus being passed on from time to time.

          He said that if a family member of a patient or a medical staff who cares for the patient is infected and the case is rising rapidly, it can be determined that the virus will be transmitted from person to person.

          Xu Shuchang also said that a female patient who had been admitted to the local Tuen Mun Hospital earlier did not have pneumonia, and she soon had a fever, which is believed to have nothing to do with unknown pneumonia in Wuhan.

          The woman had gone to Wuhan earlier and sought medical treatment after returning to Hong Kong. The media yesterday reported that she was suffering from pneumonia, which caused suspected clouds of Wuhan unknown pneumonia to enter Hong Kong. Negative, meaning no infection.

          https://udn.com/news/story/120675/4264883
          "Safety and security don't just happen, they are the result of collective consensus and public investment. We owe our children, the most vulnerable citizens in our society, a life free of violence and fear."
          -Nelson Mandela

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          • #50
            Source: https://www.scmp.com/news/china/soci...-44-11-serious

            Wuhan pneumonia: dramatic rise in cases to 44, with 11 serious
            All those with the mystery illness under quarantine, health authorities say
            Laurie Chen
            Published: 5:35pm, 3 Jan, 2020
            Updated: 5:35pm, 3 Jan, 2020

            Government health authorities in Wuhan have confirmed a dramatic increase in the number of viral pneumonia cases to 44 patients, 11 of whom are in “serious condition”.

            The outbreak of the mystery illness is due to an “unknown cause”, the statement from the Wuhan Municipal Health Commission said on Friday afternoon. All patients are currently under quarantine, according to the announcement...

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            Government announcement -

            Wuhan Municipal Health and Health Commission's report on unexplained viral pneumonia

            Issuing authority: Wuhan City health committee | Published: 2020-01-03 17:00:42 | Hits: 21182 | Font Size: Tai Zhong Small

            Since December 2019 , our committee has carried out surveillance of respiratory diseases and related diseases, and found cases of viral pneumonia of unknown cause. The clinical manifestations of the cases are mainly fever, a few patients have difficulty breathing, and chest radiographs show bilateral lung infiltrative lesions. As of 8:00 on January 3, 2020, a total of 44 patients with unexplained diagnosis of viral pneumonia were found, of which 11 were critically ill, and the vital signs of the remaining patients were generally stable. At present, all cases are being treated in isolation at Wuhan medical institutions. 121 close contacts have been tracked and medical observations have been tracked. The follow-up of close contacts is still ongoing.

            An epidemiological survey showed that some cases were operating households in Wuhan South China Seafood City. As of now, preliminary investigations have shown no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission and no medical staff infections. Pathogen identification (including nucleic acid detection and virus isolation and culture) and cause tracing are ongoing, and common respiratory diseases such as influenza, avian influenza, and adenovirus infection have been ruled out.

            After the outbreak, the State and Provincial Health and Health Commission attached great importance to it and sent working groups and expert teams to Wuhan to guide the local epidemic response and disposal work. Wuhan Municipal Health and Health Commission has conducted relevant case searches and retrospective investigations in medical institutions throughout the city, and has completed the environmental sanitation disposal of South China Seafood City, and further hygiene investigations are ongoing.




            January 3, 2020

            http://wjw.wuhan.gov.cn/front/web/sh.../2020010309017
            Last edited by sharon sanders; January 3rd, 2020, 10:27 AM. Reason: added government announcement to back up media report

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            • #51
              Source: https://www.hk01.com/%E5%8D%B3%E6%99...96%BE%E7%97%85

              [Wuhan Pneumonia] Increased to 44 confirmed cases, 11 of which were severe and excluded common respiratory diseases
              Instant China
              Written by: Ye Qi
              2020-01-03 17:27
              Last updated: 2020-01-03 17:30

              Wuhan, Hubei, has recently had multiple cases of unexplained pneumonia. According to the latest report of the Wuhan Municipal Health Commission on Friday (3rd), as of 8 am on the day, 44 confirmed cases of "unexplained viral pneumonia" have been reported, of which 11 In severe cases, the remaining patients showed stable overall signs of life.

              The report also mentioned that pathogen identification and cause tracing are ongoing, and common respiratory diseases such as influenza, avian influenza, and adenovirus infection have been ruled out.
              South China Seafood City has been blocked. (Weibo)

              South China Seafood City has been blocked. (Weibo)

              The report pointed out that the clinical manifestations of the cases were mainly fever, a few people had difficulty breathing, and the chest radiograph showed invasive lesions of both lungs. At present, all patients are receiving isolation treatment in Wuhan medical institutions, and 121 close contacts have been traced and medical observations have been made. The follow-up of close contacts is still in progress.

              The report continued that, as of now, preliminary investigations have shown no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission and no medical staff infections. An epidemiological survey showed that some patients were merchants in Wuhan South China Seafood City.
              The report stated that some patients were merchants in Wuhan South China Seafood City. (Weibo)

              The report stated that some patients were merchants in Wuhan South China Seafood City. (Weibo)

              The report emphasized that the health committees at the national and provincial levels attach great importance to the situation after the outbreak and have sent working groups and expert groups to Wuhan to guide the local epidemic response and disposal. Wuhan Municipal Health and Health Committee has started relevant case searches and retrospective investigations in medical institutions throughout the city, and has completed the environmental sanitation disposal of South China Seafood City, and further hygiene investigations are ongoing.

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              • #52
                Chen Simin: What is more harmful than Wuhan pneumonia unknown virus

                It takes time to identify the source of a disease, but according to Taiwan media reports, Su Yiren, a virus expert who served as the director of the Taiwan Disease Control Agency (formerly the CDA) during the SARS epidemic, said that in general, if it is influenza or SARS, 2 The test result will be available in 3 days, and it is very strange if there is no answer.

                Domestic online discussions show that some Chinese netizens have similar doubts. On the morning of the 31st, Beijing sent an expert group to Wuhan to carry out the detection work. Especially, Wuhan has the highest level virus research laboratory P4 laboratory in China. For known viruses such as SARS, There should be a rapid detection method. Except for identification of unknown pathogens, such as variants or novel viruses.

                Therefore, this time in Wuhan with unexplained pneumonia, it is not only the SARS outbreak that some public opinion worry about. Some public opinion thinks that if it is SARS or it should be fortunate, the prevention and treatment system is at least ready. If it is a variant or a new virus, who knows Will it be more contagious? The next "Spring Festival" will have a large crowd and high density, and it is difficult to imagine the consequences of inexperienced prevention and control.

                Real rumors are inseparable from non-public and opaque information. The best way to eliminate rumors is to let the public know the truth, not to block the Internet, delete posts, and search for hotspots. They will not come out until the matter can't be covered. People create chilling effects.

                Although the virus carries a certain risk of spread and rumors spread its panic, the risks and costs of blocking information, blocking speech, and covering up the truth are even greater, as a large number of innocent lives may be buried.


                http://www.epochtimes.com/gb/20/1/3/n11765346.htm


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                • #53
                  Wuhan Municipal Health and Health Commission's report on unexplained viral pneumonia

                  Issuing authority: Wuhan City health committee | Published: 2020-01-03 17:00:42 | Hits: 13109 | Font Size: Tai Zhong Small


                  Since December 2019 , our committee has carried out surveillance of respiratory diseases and related diseases, and found cases of viral pneumonia of unknown cause. The clinical manifestations of the cases are mainly fever, a few patients have difficulty breathing, and chest radiographs show bilateral lung infiltrative lesions. As of 8:00 on January 3, 2020, a total of 44 patients with unexplained diagnosis of viral pneumonia were found, of which 11 were critically ill, and the vital signs of the remaining patients were generally stable. At present, all cases are being treated in isolation at Wuhan medical institutions. 121 close contacts have been tracked and medical observations have been tracked. The follow-up of close contacts is still ongoing.

                  An epidemiological survey showed that some cases were operating households in Wuhan South China Seafood City. As of now, preliminary investigations have shown no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission and no medical staff infections. Pathogen identification (including nucleic acid detection and virus isolation and culture) and cause tracing are ongoing, and common respiratory diseases such as influenza, avian influenza, and adenovirus infection have been ruled out.

                  After the outbreak, the State and Provincial Health and Health Commission attached great importance to it and sent working groups and expert teams to Wuhan to guide the local epidemic response and disposal work. Wuhan Municipal Health and Health Commission has conducted relevant case searches and retrospective investigations in medical institutions throughout the city, and has completed the environmental sanitation disposal of South China Seafood City, and further hygiene investigations are ongoing.




                  January 3, 2020
                  http://wjw.wuhan.gov.cn/front/web/sh.../2020010309017

                  Wuhan pneumonia outbreak jumps to 44 people as two in Hong Kong show symptoms
                  All those with the mystery illness in Wuhan are under quarantine, health authorities say, with a further 121 people under medical observation
                  Two women admitted to hospital in Hong Kong had visited Wuhan in the past fortnight
                  SCMP
                  Laurie Chen and
                  Christy Leung
                  Published: 5:35pm, 3 Jan, 2020

                  ...
                  The Hong Kong Hospital Authority said that by noon on Friday, public hospitals had admitted two female patients, aged 12 and 41, who had been to Wuhan in the previous 14 days and presented with fever and respiratory infections or pneumonia symptoms.
                  ...
                  https://www.scmp.com/news/china/soci...-44-11-serious
                  Twitter: @RonanKelly13
                  The views expressed are mine alone and do not represent the views of my employer or any other person or organization.

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                  • #54
                    Meanwhile in Hong Kong



                    2 Wuhan-related cases reported


                    January 3, 2020


                    Public hospitals have as at noon today in the past 24 hours admitted two females who have been to Wuhan in the past 14 days, the Hospital Authority announced.



                    They presented with fever and respiratory infections or pneumonia symptoms.



                    The authority said the patients, aged 12 and 41, are in stable condition and are being treated in isolation at Princess Margaret Hospital.



                    A preliminary investigation shows that both patients had not been to a wet market in Wuhan before their symptoms appeared.



                    The authority has sent specimens to the Department of Health for testing and will keep monitoring their conditions.



                    Public hospitals have reported five such cases to the department since December 31. Two of these patients have been discharged.


                    https://www.news.gov.hk/eng/2020/01/...ml?type=ticker

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                    • #55
                      hat tip Ian Mackay

                      https://virologydownunder.com/viral-...-and-counting/



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                      • #56
                        More from Hong Kong government -

                        CE tours XRL health checkpoint

                        January 3, 2020

                        Play Video
                        Staying vigilant
                        Staying vigilant:

                        Chief Executive Carrie Lam (second right) speaks with a cleaning worker while inspecting the health surveillance measures adopted at the West Kowloon Station of the Guangzhou-Shenzhen-Hong Kong Express Rail Link.



                        Download Video| Transcript
                        Chief Executive Carrie Lam today visited the West Kowloon Station of the Guangzhou-Shenzhen-Hong Kong Express Rail Link to inspect health surveillance measures taken there in response to the cluster of pneumonia cases detected in Wuhan.



                        These measures include the provision of health information, body temperature checks by the thermal imaging system and handling of feverish travellers.



                        She spoke with frontline officers to learn about the implementation of preventive and control measures, and thanked them for safeguarding the health of citizens and travellers.



                        The Chief Executive also inspected the enhanced cleaning work inside the station.



                        While there have been no serious pneumonia cases related to those in Wuhan detected in Hong Kong so far, Mrs Lam said the Government has stepped up surveillance measures at boundary control points, adding healthcare staff have been alerted to stay vigilant.



                        She appealed to members of the public to strengthen personal and environmental hygiene and advised travellers with respiratory symptoms to wear surgical masks and seek medical attention.


                        https://www.news.gov.hk/eng/2020/01/...ml?type=ticker

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                        • #57
                          This is the post by Dr. Mackay with the image above:

                          https://virologydownunder.com/viral-...-and-counting/

                          (Assuming the report of a test finding less than 4% homology to a SARS-CoV gene is correct, that raises several possibilities. Perhaps, the test was simply an error and something else is causing this outbreak, or perhaps one of the seasonal human coronaviruses was a background detection or contaminant in one of the samples. Laurie Garrett has previously tweeted in this thread a tweet that I posted that coronaviruses in general might be ruled out, and her tweet came about 24 hours after the report from the Wuhan University researcher. The seasonal human coronaviruses should not cross-react with SARS in a good lab, but there have been multiple incidents in the past where that false positive happened. This report also probably ruled out the 2003 SARS virus. - alert)

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                          • #58
                            Hong Kong widening the scope of the surveillance -


                            https://www.chp.gov.hk/files/pdf/let...s_20200103.pdf


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                            • #59
                              Translation Google

                              Wuhan Unidentified Pneumonia Disease Management Agency: New Coronavirus Not Excluded

                              2020-01-03 22:31 Central News Agency Taipei 3rd

                              In response to the unexplained pneumonia epidemic in Wuhan, China , Zhuang Renxiang, deputy director of the CDC said today that a reply has been received from China. At present, the pathogens and infection sources are to be clarified, but influenza, avian influenza, and adenovirus infections can be ruled out. It cannot be ruled out as a new type of coronavirus disease.

                              Wuhan Health Committee of China announced that by 8 am on January 3, 2020, a total of 44 patients with unexplained diagnosis of viral pneumonia were found, including 11 severe cases. Identification has ruled out common respiratory diseases such as influenza, avian influenza, and adenovirus infection.

                              Zhuang Renxiang, deputy director of the Disease Control Department of the Ministry of Health and Welfare, said at a press conference at night that China received a reply on the latest epidemic situation of unexplained viral pneumonia in Wuhan at 4.50 pm. A total of 44 cases of unexplained viral pneumonia were accumulated, some of them from the South China Seafood Market, 11 patients were severely ill and the remaining patients had stable vital signs.

                              At present, all cases are being treated in isolation at medical institutions in Wuhan, and 121 close contacts have been tracked. The tracking work is still ongoing.

                              Zhuang Renxiang said that according to the Chinese investigation, the preliminary investigation and judgment was viral pneumonia. However, the pathogens and infection sources have been clarified, and the tests have ruled out common respiratory diseases such as influenza, avian influenza, and adenovirus infection.

                              Follow-up observation points, Zhuang Renxiang said, will see whether the 121 close contacts and medical care in China have caused infections; and there are no obvious signs of human-to-human transmission. It should be exposure to an environment or an animal. If the infection is later known source, better control.

                              Zhuang Renxiang also said that diseases such as influenza, avian influenza, and adenovirus have been ruled out, but it could not be ruled out that it may be a new type of coronavirus. Coronaviruses can cause minor illnesses such as a cold, and can also cause severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) or Middle East respiratory syndrome coronavirus infection (MERS), which requires further investigation to clarify.

                              At present, China has not found any obvious human-to-human transmission or infection by medical personnel. Zhuang Renxiang said that due to the uncertainty of the source of the infection, the existing boarding and quarantine measures for direct flights from Wuhan to Taiwan will be maintained, and various preventive measures will continue. Passengers who have fever or flu-like symptoms when entering the country should take the initiative to inform airline personnel and airport and port quarantine personnel.

                              People who have recently traveled to Wuhan, Mainland China. If they have fever or acute respiratory symptoms within 10 days of returning to China, they should take the initiative to report the 1922 Epidemic Prevention Line and wear a mask to seek medical treatment as soon as possible. Please inform the TOCC (travel history, occupation, contact) History and clustering), etc., for physicians to evaluate and report timely diagnosis and obtain comprehensive medical care.

                              https://udn.com/news/story/120675/4266235
                              "Safety and security don't just happen, they are the result of collective consensus and public investment. We owe our children, the most vulnerable citizens in our society, a life free of violence and fear."
                              -Nelson Mandela

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                              • #60
                                https://www.scmp.com/news/china/soci...-44-11-serious

                                [snip]

                                Professor Jiang Rongmeng, of Ditan Hospital in Beijing, one of China’s top centres for treating infectious diseases, said the rise in infections was probably a consequence of active detection and reporting of unexplained pneumonia cases.

                                “No apparent human-to-human transmission has been detected so far, otherwise there would have been a community outbreak with more infections,” he said.

                                Reports so far suggested that the pneumonia could be caused by a rare virus or a previously unknown one, Jiang said, adding that identification may take up to a week.

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