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    Preprint - Susceptibility of ferrets, cats, dogs, and different domestic animals to SARS-coronavirus-2

    Source: https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1...03.30.015347v1

    Susceptibility of ferrets, cats, dogs, and different domestic animals to SARS-coronavirus-2
    Hualan Chen
    doi: https://doi.org/10.1101/2020.03.30.015347
    This article is a preprint and has not been certified by peer review [what does this mean?].
    Abstract

    Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) causes the infectious disease COVID-19, which was first reported in Wuhan, China in December, 2019. Despite the tremendous efforts to control the disease, COVID-19 has now spread to over 100 countries and caused a global pandemic. SARS-CoV-2 is thought to have originated in bats; however, the intermediate animal sources of the virus are completely unknown. Here, we investigated the susceptibility of ferrets and animals in close contact with humans to SARS-CoV-2....
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    https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-00984-8

    "Scientists say the findings are interesting, but that cat-owners should not be alarmed just yet. The results are based on lab experiments in which a small number of animals were deliberately infected with high doses of the virus, SARS-CoV-2, and do not represent real-life interactions between people and their pets, says virologist Linda Saif at The Ohio State University in Columbus. There is no direct evidence that the infected cats secreted enough coronavirus to infect people, she says."

    "But Saif says that none of the infected cats showed symptoms of illness, and that only one out of the three felines exposed to infected animals caught the virus. “This suggests the virus may not be highly transmissible in cats,” she says. Furthermore, the mode of transmission is unclear because the study does not describe how how the cages were set up, and the uninfected cats could have contracted the virus from contaminated faeces or urine."
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    • #3
      d?sol?, vu ceci:
      "La surveillance du SRAS-CoV-2 chez les chats doit ?tre envisag?e dans le cadre des efforts visant ? ?liminer le COVID-19 chez l'homme, notent les auteurs dans la pr?-impression"

      je pense, notamment, en p?riode de lev?e de confinement:
      - si des tests sont mis en pratique, que lorsque dans un appartement, il y a plus de deux chats, des tests doivent ?tre fait, parce que quand on a plus de deux chats dans un appartement, il n'y a pas de distantiation animale possible en p?riode de confinement ...
      - aucun chat ne doit sortir d'une fourri?re ? destination d'une adoption sans test. Le travail du       virologue Bu Zhigao justifie que les fourri?res fassent leur travail.

      d'ailleurs :
      Conform?ment au Code sanitaire pour les animaux terrestres de l’OIE, la d?tection du virus COVID-19 chez les animaux remplit les crit?res de notification ? l’OIE au moyen de WAHIS, comme maladie ?mergente.

      Ainsi, toute d?tection du virus COVID-19 chez un animal (y compris les informations concernant l’esp?ce, les tests de diagnostic et les informations ?pid?miologiques pertinentes) doit ?tre communiqu?e ? l’OIE.

      https://www.oie.int/fr/expertise-sci...ronavirus2019/


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      • #4
        The OIE link says:
        "The current spread of COVID-19 is a result of human to human transmission. To date, there is no evidence that companion animals have spread the disease. Therefore, there is no justification in taking measures against companion animals which may compromise their welfare."

        "        While there is no evidence of a COVID-19 infection spreading from one animal to another, keeping animals that test positive for COVID-19 away from unexposed animals should be considered best practice."

        There is no call for impoundment. How to best separate pets should be discussed with the family veterinarian. If someone is really interested in whether or not companion animals can infect human caretakers in the real world, the humane thing to do would be to start with epidemiology. Sample or survey humans who interface with these species: veterinarians, shelter and animal control workers, breeders and people who live with pets in households. Then compare their rate of infection with the virus vs a human control group with no contact with those species. That should have been done before those lethal experiments or impoundments. (No wonder those cats were "aggressive." )
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        i love myself. the quietest. simplest. most powerful. revolution ever. ---- nayyirah waheed

        "...there’s an obvious contest that’s happening between different sectors of the colonial ruling class in this country. And they would, if they could, lump us into their beef, their struggle." ---- Omali Yeshitela, African People’s Socialist Party

        (My posts are not intended as advice or professional assessments of any kind.)
        Never forget Excalibur.

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        • #5
          Merci,
          je suis d'accord, avec vous pour bien des points, mais encore faut-il que cela soit formalis?:
          - dans le cas de familles confin?es positives, avec des chats, si des tests de lib?ration sont mis en place, ce doit ?tre pour tout le monde concern?. Pour les chats en appartement, cela ne changera rien, ils y resterons ...
          - quand je parle de fourri?re, je parle de chat ou chien sans identification, plac?s sous la responsabilit? des autorit?s locales, des tests existent et sont fait ?
          - sur la validit? des donn?es nationales, on parle d'un tiers de la population mondiale confin?e et seulement ceci de trouver pour les animaux exp?rimentalement prouv?s comme sensibles:

          Les Pays membres de l’OIE tiennent l’OIE inform?e des investigations ou r?sultats d’investigations chez les animaux :
          • Surveillance chez les animaux pour la Chine (5/02/2020), veuillez consulter : China_update.
          Donc, z?ro, en Chine, un pays qui aime manger les chiens, chiens qui ?taient pr?sent dans le march? de Wuhan. L?, la Chine se .... du monde, notamment, scientifique ... J'ai fait, bien des compliments sur leurs actions, mais, pour ce point, je me permet ces propos que j'assume ...

          Maintenant Emily, franchement, le silence de ONE HEALTH, ? ce stade, c'est cela qui doit ?tre mis en lumi?re ...


          Quant aux v?t?rinaires des cliniques f?lines, ? Paris ou New York, je suis tr?s curieux, vu le fait que je connais bien les chats, de voir l'?tat de leur tenue de confinement s'ils font des consultations en tenue de cosmonautes... Ils ou Elles, arrivent ? les approcher ?



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          • #6
            Ah, thank you for clarifying. I was getting worried about One Health. As for those pet vets, I have had some with missing fingers and ears. (That was an animal ER tech.) It is a very, very challenging profession! Here is one at work:

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIyfNM6y3vU
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIyfNM6y3vU
            _____________________________________________

            Ask Congress to Investigate COVID Origins and Government Response to Pandemic.

            i love myself. the quietest. simplest. most powerful. revolution ever. ---- nayyirah waheed

            "...there’s an obvious contest that’s happening between different sectors of the colonial ruling class in this country. And they would, if they could, lump us into their beef, their struggle." ---- Omali Yeshitela, African People’s Socialist Party

            (My posts are not intended as advice or professional assessments of any kind.)
            Never forget Excalibur.

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            • #7
              Enfin, on laisse la vid?o de cot?, le sujet c'est ONE HEALTH.

              Donc, dans ce cadre, quid de la d?finition de maladie?
              ensuite, on peut d?couvrir quelles sont les "maladies " concern?es ?

              Visiblement celle- ci, cela ne tue pas assez, donc ils s'en foutent , ou ?

              On parle d'une zoonose...

              C'est mieux pour d?battre d'avoir une base de d?finitions formalis?es accessible , non ? Vous le faites aux States, mais cela inclut les animaux ou vous en ?tes encore au stade de la s?gr?gation*: les animaux d'un cot? , les humains de l'autre ?

              *sans humour vrai, il ne faut lire aucun de mes messages...

              Pour certains, dont je suis, ce genre de sujet est ?tudi? depuis plus de trente ans. Visiblement il faut beaucoup de patience, pour entrevoir la survenue potentielle, de textes avec un peu de profondeur...

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              • #8
                I thought the moon suit was in reference to protecting from physical dangers. (Machine translation.) I'm sure US veterinarians are aware of zoonotic risks. Rabies is the big one, there's plague and the deep bacterial infections from bites. Since there is no proof of cat to human transmission, I don't know if that is added to the list. They already seem to have enough stress.
                Veterinary Suicide Rates Are Higher, Including Veterinary Technicians
                https://todaysveterinarynurse.com/articles/veterinary-suicide-rates-are-higher-including-veterinary-technicians/
                The study found that female veterinarians were 2.4 times as likely as the general U.S. population to commit suicide.
                _____________________________________________

                Ask Congress to Investigate COVID Origins and Government Response to Pandemic.

                i love myself. the quietest. simplest. most powerful. revolution ever. ---- nayyirah waheed

                "...there’s an obvious contest that’s happening between different sectors of the colonial ruling class in this country. And they would, if they could, lump us into their beef, their struggle." ---- Omali Yeshitela, African People’s Socialist Party

                (My posts are not intended as advice or professional assessments of any kind.)
                Never forget Excalibur.

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                • #9
                  "Les services de sant? publique et les services v?t?rinaires doivent travailler ensemble en utilisant une approche "Une seule sant?" pour partager les informations et effectuer une ?valuation des risques "
                  https://www.oie.int/fr/expertise-sci...ronavirus2019/

                  Travailler ensemble, cela demande au minimum de pouvoir se comprendre, donc de disposer d'un vocabulaire partag?.

                  Si cette crise, destabilise bien des structures: cela fait souvent cacophonies, il y a des causes connues de certains, depuis bien longtemps. Alors on continue sans vouloir ouvrir les yeux ou ?

                  Le dossier ONE HEALTH doit ?tre ouvert, en Chine, comme ailleurs ...

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                  • #10
                    En regardant l'historique, la cause est peut-?tre la Peste porcine africaine, qui, en provoquant, une crise de la fourniture de prot?ines animales a relanc? la consommation de chat . Entre la consommation de viande de chat et les modes de productions de certains " m?dicaments" avec des crottes de chauve souris, cela devient plus clair.

                    "4 millions de chats font l’objet de ?ce commerce brutal? chaque ann?e en Chine."

                    https://fr.sputniknews.com/internati...-dans-le-pays/
                    Attention, je n'indique pas que la consommation de viande est ? risque, quoi que, j'indique que la production pour la consommation vu l'hygi?ne de ces lieux est un danger av?r? ...

                    en tout cas : ceci
                    Surveillance et ?v?nements chez les animaux

                    Les Pays membres de l’OIE tiennent l’OIE inform?e des investigations ou r?sultats d’investigations chez les animaux :
                    • Surveillance chez les animaux pour la Chine (5/02/2020), veuillez consulter : China_update.
                    donc :
                    https://www.oie.int/fileadmin/Home/e...e_COVID-19.pdf

                    "Donc 0 cas sur 4 000 000 de chats consomm?s "

                    cela me semble justifier de quelques explications, notamment si les Chinois veulent que leur image de marque ne soit pas atteinte pour tr?s longtemps ...

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                    • #11
                      Coronavirus : un tigre d’un zoo de New York test? positif

                      https://www.lemonde.fr/planete/artic...5674_3244.html
                      la d?claration O.I.E viendra un jour ?

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                      • #12
                        Susceptibility of ferrets, cats, dogs, and different domestic animals to SARS-coronavirus-2 https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1...347v1.full.pdf

                        Sachant que les furets sont, pour certains, des animaux de compagnie, par exemple , on estime ? combien le nombre de furets ? New York ?


                        https://www.aphis.usda.gov/aphis/new...y-zoo-covid-19

                        Veterinarians who believe an animal should be tested will contact state animal health officials, who will work with public and animal health authorities to decide whether samples should be collected and tested.

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                        • #13
                          Covid-19 : risque faible de transmission entre humain et chat d'apr?s une ?tude sur des animaux d'?tudiants v?t?rinaires alforiens
                          https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update...0597138649088/

                          vu ceci : Ainsi, toute d?tection du virus COVID-19 chez un animal (y compris les informations concernant l’esp?ce, les tests de diagnostic et les informations ?pid?miologiques pertinentes) doit ?tre communiqu?e ? l’OIE. https://www.oie.int/fr/expertise-sci...ronavirus2019/

                          et comme je n'ai vu aucune notification fran?aise , j'ai besoin d'?tre ?clair? ...

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